Clen woes

[Mrthejoshman]

Ok so I know that its advised to only start a cycle if you have fairly low body fat, what about using clen to shed the fat before you start a cycle with proper diet and training? Thanks again!

[kronik420]

stats?

[Igifuno]

Stats, goals, Bf%?

[Bert]

Clen works better when you are lower bodyfat too.

[Mrthejoshman]

Hey guys, stats are 22yrs, 6' 170lbs, lifting 4 yrs bodyfat 20%, this is just for my better understanding, thanks.

[Reiid13]

Clen's not a magic pill , still have to eat and train , sides can be a little harsh aswell

[jimmyinkedup]

Just like everything else its best to take it as far as you can naturally before considering using chemical assistance. At 22 you have a ways to go naturally in several areas. You only need to lose about what 6-8 % bf or so? No way you cant do that fairly quickly with proper diet and training alone.

[magic32]

^^^Agreed. Plus Clen is finisher, not an initiator. It's good for polishing your physique, and isn't really what you should be using at 20% bf.

If you can determine what your problem is then you can apply the proper remedy, i.e., do you overeat, consume too many daily calories, junk food, high sugar/salt, not enough small meals, processed foods instead of natural, etc. No supplement, compound, or even steroid can adequately compensate for erroneous eating habits.

[Igifuno]

Great comments from the vets on this topic. I hope you take them seriously. You have the potential to make tremendous progress naturally at your age, and diet/training is the true key.

In the interim, check out this OTC fat loss protocol from austin:

http://forums.steroid.com/supplement...-products.html

[Mrthejoshman]

Thanks man appreciate it! All the info was great, as I said my brothers it was just for my general knowledge being new to the game. thanks again!