Any gear while loosing weight ?

[enigma10]

Hey guys, so I've search for my questions and many results come up from all the other websites, my question is my BF is too high, i need to lose fat before i start my clean bulking and the last time i was on gear was 2 years ago, would anyone suggest gear while losing body fat or do it naturally with say Clen (which i hate and like, hate bc of jitters and strength loss) and then start gear ?

Thanks!

[Back In Black]

Clen isn't naturally.

At 30%ish buddy your fat should fall off you with the correct diet and cardio approach.

[enigma10]

Clen isn't naturally.

At 30%ish buddy your fat should fall off you with the correct diet and cardio approach.

Gotcha, so no gear to help out ? if no gear then something else like a eca stack ?

Thank you

[DPTUK]

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[Back In Black]

Gotcha, so no gear to help out ? if no gear then something else like a eca stack ?

Thank you

I wouldn't want to put my heart under any extra strain at that high a bodyfat.

With all due respect (and no offence meant) you have given your body plenty of abuse for long enough to have your fat levels that high. Best thing you can do is be nice to it and put in the hard work without looking for short cuts.

[enigma10]

diet and use primo

I searched Primo...is it short for anything ?

And this time I'm just losing BF then gear to bulk but after bulking to cutting i should use gear when i cut, correct ?

[enigma10]

I wouldn't want to put my heart under any extra strain at that high a bodyfat.

With all due respect (and no offence meant) you have given your body plenty of abuse for long enough to have your fat levels that high. Best thing you can do is be nice to it and put in the hard work without looking for short cuts.

I agree, and no offence taken, i'm man enough to admit i Fkud up, but i'm back on track now, i just always heard to use a weight loss product and i used clen before but yes it beats that heart up quick.

[Back In Black]

diet and use primo

Really? Go away.

[Back In Black]

I searched Primo...is it short for anything ?

And this time I'm just losing BF then gear to bulk but after bulking to cutting i should use gear when i cut, correct ?

Ignore him, it's bad advice.

At the right stats you can use it to cut or bulk. Depends where you are physique wise and where you want to go. It's difficult to plan ahead because things change all the time.

[enigma10]

Ignore him, it's bad advice.

At the right stats you can use it to cut or bulk. Depends where you are physique wise and where you want to go. It's difficult to plan ahead because things change all the time.

lol, right on i was kinda confused on the Primo thing...OK, clean diet and lift weights regular and then blk, at 6'4" age 32 male, what would be the target fat loss or BF to star bulking ? hard to say i know but a target would help.

Thank you

[Reiid13]

I searched Primo...is it short for anything ?

And this time I'm just losing BF then gear to bulk but after bulking to cutting i should use gear when i cut, correct ?

Hi buddy ! , dont take that trolls advice mate , primo - primobolan , its a lean muscle AAS , and a expensive one at that . Theres a million reasons why not to take AAS at high bf% .

Just train and diet buddy

[DPTUK]

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[Reiid13]

Primobolan is one of the only compounds which will give you leans gains on a low calorie diet, taking about the injectables obviously.

I don't know why mods would disagree since that's what it says on this godamn website, so unless they are disagreeing with their own website then why would u say that aint true?

Read thread mate , he's at 30%bf approx , what would be the point , he's cutting not bulking , read his thread in nutritonal section aswell , he's doing cardio and diet to shred weight . Yes primo can help to cut but the equasion and the pro's and cons are pointless ...

[DPTUK]

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[The Deadlifting Dog]

Primobolan is one of the only compounds which will give you leans gains on a low calorie diet, taking about the injectables obviously. I don't know why mods would disagree since that's what it says on this godamn website, so unless they are disagreeing with their own website then why would u say that aint true?

Because at 30% bodyfat he shouldn't be using ANY steroid.
He obviously just started exercising again and the healthiest thing to do is get his diet in check and exercise.
Right now he shouldn't be looking for a shortcut.

[The Deadlifting Dog]

Oops.. Too late.

[Back In Black]

DPTUK you need a time out to calm down and get your shit together and stop jumping in and being an arse.

[DPTUK]

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[Back In Black]

yeah fkit, just ban me anyway cos i know u don't like me and want to do it so go for it if make you happier about yourself

I'm not going to ban you but if you continue your aggressive, arrogant, ignorant style you will get yourself banned. I'm suggesting you take a time out to get your head straight. By your own admission you're a bit fvcked up at the minute.

[DPTUK]

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[itsjayman02]

yeah ok fair enough.

I like a happy ending !!!!

[adrenaline99]

I wouldn't even recommend the CES stack at 30% lol. Using any type of aid at that % is a huge waste of precious money.

[ickythump]

I like a happy ending !!!!

I realize I'm helping derail, but this guy is a REAL thread derailer, and seldom has enough information to butt in, so it's not quite yet happy, tho he did say he will calm down, I've seen him warned plenty

[itsjayman02]

I realize I'm helping derail, but this guy is a REAL thread derailer, and seldom has enough information to butt in, so it's not quite yet happy, tho he did say he will calm down, I've seen him warned plenty

Im just a romantic and like happy endings!!

[enigma10]

Read thread mate , he's at 30%bf approx , what would be the point , he's cutting not bulking , read his thread in nutritonal section aswell , he's doing cardio and diet to shred weight . Yes primo can help to cut but the equasion and the pro's and cons are pointless ...

Thanks !

And it looks like homeboy got banned

[Oki-Des]

If you want to take anything to help lose bf, read Austinites thread on losing weight naturally. She mentions three compounds that might help. One is green tea extract, the next is Chromium and I cant remember the third. But it is a great read full of great info. Also, it is all over the counter stuff. Good luck!