Need some advice

[bigguy22]

Hi guys
i am 24 years old been working out for 8 years without using any steroids i am 5'11 and about 190 body weight very lean not sure about the body fat percentage but i am vascular and can see veins and everything i just started using steroids 5 weeks ago i am started by using tbol 50mg a day and test sustnon 500 a week i the first 3 week i gained like 5 pounds but i got really stronger and way more vascular my arms would hurt from the bumps just by warming up i was so i excited but by the the forth week i stared getting weaker!! and losing weight by the 5th week i lost the 5 pounds i gained and i dont feel vascular like even before using steroids , any one experienced anything like that before i am getting depressed cause am losing weight and getting weaker on roids thats just strange , i am 100 % sure that the gear is good and my food is always on check very high protein and adjusting carbs as i need and the needed amount of fats , if anyone one can help me would be great

[Bio-Active]

How does your nutrition plan look and what are the exact dose(s) You are running for your cycle?

[bigguy22]

i am taking 875mg test a week i pin eod and 50mg tbol , i eat about 6 meals a day 250 grams protein and plenty of complex carbs
and good fats , i have never had problems with eating i know how to eat and exercise very good before taking gear everyone thougtt i was on roids

[Bio-Active]

i am taking 875mg test a week i pin eod and 50mg tbol , i eat about 6 meals a day 250 grams protein and plenty of complex carbs
and good fats , i have never had problems with eating i know how to eat and exercise very good before taking gear everyone thougtt i was on roids

Are you getting enough rest?

[Cuz]

are you using 875 or 500 mg? thats a big difference.

[bigguy22]

875 i just got confused , and yes i rest good i sleep like 8 hours atleast

[Cuz]

is this your first round you said? you shouldnt start out that high. your hemocrit and or blood preasure could be up. have you had it checked? you may have to give blood. at nearly 900mgs thats alot for a first timer. should habe started at 500.

[Bio-Active]

Maybe it's time to change up your macros? Are you eating more than you did pre cycle?

[bigguy22]

yes its ,i made blood work last week when i notice i am getting weaker everything seems normal only liver enzymes is a little high i think its normal cause of the tbol everything else seems normal only slightly high estrogen

[Cuz]

are u takin something to keep the estrogen down?

[bigguy22]

i am talking letro tablet eod for estrogen , my macros is good i think i am eating like 600 calories above maintenance and stared eating more when i noticed loss

[Bio-Active]

i am talking letro tablet eod for estrogen , my macros is good i think i am eating like 600 calories above maintenance and stared eating more when i noticed loss

Letro is strong and can crush estro! I suggest runninf either adex or aromasin. How many mg of letro are you taking?

[bigguy22]

its the standard table i think 2.5mg eod

[MuscleInk]

i am talking letro tablet eod for estrogen , my macros is good i think i am eating like 600 calories above maintenance and stared eating more when i noticed loss

Why letro??? It can bring your estrogen too quickly and crash it. When that happens you will feel like someone dragged you behind a truck! Gains can slow and there will be a feeling of general malaise. Letro is a poor choice of AI.

[Cuz]

your blood work said your estrogen was high yet you're taking letro? letro is very strong and can bottom you out in a matter of days. something is definatley off.

[bigguy22]

my friend is one who suggest letro he is been taking gear for long time , although its strong when i did the blood work my estrogen was a little high than normal , do you think that the letro is whats making me weaker all of sudden ?

[Cuz]

well that im not sure but I would switch to dex anf see what happened then

[bigguy22]

oh well i dont have this on hand right now and if ordered it it will take atleast 2 weeks , its just frustrating being now on gear and still look the same without or maybe getting weaker i was expecting very good results

[Cuz]

the site sponser has dex. I get mine in two days.

[bigguy22]

ok thanks broo i will check it out!

[Bio-Active]

your blood work said your estrogen was high yet you're taking letro? letro is very strong and can bottom you out in a matter of days. something is definatley off.

assuming he means slightly high for a person with normal testosterone levels means his e is not very high

[bigguy22]

yup the doctor doesnt know i am talking steroids and he said it was just a little high

assuming he means slightly high for a person with normal testosterone levels means his e is not very high

[Bio-Active]

yup the doctor doesnt know i am talking steroids and he said it was just a little high

still 2.5 mg letro every 3 days is a lot. That will more than likely crush your estrogen. How long have you been running that dose?

[Cuz]

what was the reading did you get a copy of the tests. what about your test levels where were they at?

[Cuz]

assuming he means slightly high for a person with normal testosterone levels means his e is not very high

thanks jim lol that kinda flew ovet my head there

[bigguy22]

i didnt get a copy from the test but obliviously i didnt check test levels or my doctor would freakout lol

[Cuz]

well sometimes its not a bad idea to get them checked on cycle to make sure your gear is legit. yes I understand that about the docs. you could consider a private lab also

[bigguy22]

i will check this out also but i 100% sure the gear is legit cause my friend is been using the same source for a long time and he is a beast