Hi guys,
I'm not able to get my hands on Raloxifene, what would you guys recommend as an alternative. I'm not to keen on letro.
Also I don't have gyno, and not prone to it either but just preparing for next cycle
Thanks :)
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Hi guys,
I'm not able to get my hands on Raloxifene, what would you guys recommend as an alternative. I'm not to keen on letro.
Also I don't have gyno, and not prone to it either but just preparing for next cycle
Thanks :)
ARR has it.
Since you say you're not prone to gyno, nor do you have it, using an AI is all you should need to keep your e2 in check. Ralox isn't an AI.
I live in UK didn't think they shipped to UkQuote:
Originally Posted by bass
I'm not looking for an AI I need something to reverse gyno just incase and Raloxifene is usually what you'd use as protocol.... Just playing it safeQuote:
Originally Posted by ANIMAL
if I am not mistaken they ship to UK.Quote:
Originally Posted by Muscleduke
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Originally Posted by bass
Just on site they do, But shipping isn't very reliable.
Anyone else got any input? Reversal apart from raloxifene?
I've seen people use Nolvadex I'm not to sure wether this is a good idea, from what I've read it isn't a very powerful option. Might just have to get letro to have in hand if there isn't anything else, High doubt I'll get anyway but being prepared can't hurt
Their shipping is reliable. Bit if you don't have gyno and you're not prone then why bother? Run your AI properly and if you do notice initial signs then you can add some nolva which may work.
That's all I was saying muscleduke.Quote:
Originally Posted by Back In Black
You can use Nolva as an alternative if gyno flares up. If for whatever reason you let it get to that point you could dose Nolva at 40mg for 1 week and up your AI as well. I only have experience with Aromasin, I did it at 25mg ED until the sides subsided and brought it back down to 12.5mg ED. Providing the signs went away, you would drop the Nolva to 20mg and so on. I reversed gyno lump doing the Nolva/Aromasin protocol.
Nolva is statistically only a few percentage points less effective than Ralox. Just use it if you have to as it's really not that dramatic of a difference.
For that matter and if you're gyno sensitive, run nolva during your cycle as well. You may have to bump up your AI a bit but as long as your protected, so what.
My boy is in the uk and orders from arr all the time without fail so id say they are very reliable to the UK. Anyway ai on cycle to manage e2 which should prevent gyno, if not and it rears its ugly head ralox to treat it. You can also use tamox which is very effective as well. OP you have quite a bit of inaccurate info from arr not shipping to uk or it not being reliable to tamox being a weak treatment for gyno. Lots of misinformation you have been hearing. Run your ai on cycle and have ralox or tamox on hand just in case. The nice thing about tamox is you should have it on hand for your pct and it is very effective at treating gyno as well. Best of luck.
Ah thanks, yeah well AI is good to go and I have more than enough Nolva just nailed into my head that I needed ralox which I clearly don't! Thanks mateQuote:
Originally Posted by Back In Black
Sorry dude, I miss understood what you said! Ok great, I have plenty of Nolvadex so will stick with that protocol. Thank youQuote:
Originally Posted by ANIMAL
Wicked well I'm not gyno sensitive never had this problem, Think I have read a couple of things that miss lead me on the Ralox side of things. Will use the Nolvadex protocol. ThanksQuote:
Originally Posted by kelkel
Yes, I read some info that miss lead me. Will stick with Nolvadex and obviously carry on with AI protocol during cycle, I spoke with them they said shipping is fine but there is a possibility of it being seized. But won't need to order at this moment in time now anyway! Thanks buddyQuote:
Originally Posted by jimmyinkedup
Just get your glands removed mate
have all of the gland removed, if any is left behind gyno will grow back. alot of dr's want to leave a portion of the gland for aesthetics... dont do it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Euroholic
Should of had a Ant. E
Firstly, Raloxifene is a SERM and very similar in action and sides to Clomid and to a lesser degree its other family member Nolva, so taking it isn't really circumventing SERMs. Secondly, what does "...not to keen..." mean? Letro is the best during cycle gyno treatment as Adex is usually (though it works for some) too mild for reversal and better delegated to preventive AI along with reducing other estro sides. AIs are preferred because they don't hinder cycle gains like SERMs, which are better reserved for PCT. Plus if you start to experience complications you'll want the best med for the job, regardless of what you're keen on.Quote:
Originally Posted by Muscleduke
Stick to the scripts that are already written and proven, don't bother trying to recreate the wheel...It's a fantastic tool, use it.
Cheers for input everyone. If I do get gyno which I'm 99.9% I won't I shall use The nolva protocol
LOL, Nolva is solid.
However, no one (regardless of how many cycles they've run gyno free) can be any percentage sure (much less 99.9%) that the very next anabolic cycle won't incite gyno. Your body, its chemical balance, and the composition (as well as combinations) of the gear used are all constantly changing. This change breeds opportunity, and with it provides uncertainty. Just keep a reversal therapy drug on hand.
Will do bud!Quote:
Originally Posted by magic32