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    Anavar only cycle - pyramid or gradual increase?

    Should I do a 7 week pyramid or a 6 week gradual increase?

    Week 1 - 20 mg
    Week 2 - 30 mg
    Week 3 - 40 mg
    Week 4 - 50 mg
    Week 5 - 40 mg
    Week 6 - 30 mg
    Week 7 - 20 mg

    or

    Week 1 - 20 mg
    Week 2 - 30 mg
    Week 3 - 40 mg
    Week 4 - 50 mg
    Week 5 - 60 mg
    Week 6 - 70 mg

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    Hey there,

    Anavar only is a poor choice for a cycle. Results will be just as weak as the mind will be. Playing yo-yo with your doses is something that was done in the 70's. No need for that.

    Reconsider cycling at your age all together. You're too young. The young and Steroids
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    Just tell me which option please. I've done a var only cycle last year and got great results. I then got my liver and testosterone checked and both were top notch, so here I am already on week 3 - so I can't turn back now. I'm not denying it's still not a great idea at my age but I'm doing it anyway - I'll learn from my own mistakes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by austinite View Post
    Hey there,

    Anavar only is a poor choice for a cycle. Results will be just as weak as the mind will be. Playing yo-yo with your doses is something that was done in the 70's. No need for that.

    Reconsider cycling at your age all together. You're too young. The young and Steroids
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    Take advice from Austinite before you hurt yourself.

    Join Date: Jan 2011. How many cycles under your belt?

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    i agree with austinite,
    even if you are going to do an anavar only cycle neither are a good set up
    If people can't tell your on steroids then your doing them wrong

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    if i were to do one, which i wouldnt, id do 100mg a day. Always run test with any compound. Number one rule.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gixxerboy1 View Post
    i agree with austinite,
    even if you are going to do an anavar only cycle neither are a good set up
    Can you recommend a good set up? Last time I did it I did the gradual increase and I saw really good results.

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    Why ask, you've been told anavar only isn't good and that your to young and you haven't listened to either?

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    Quote Originally Posted by reporich View Post
    Why ask, you've been told anavar only isn't good and that your to young and you haven't listened to either?
    Like I said I've already done it and saw great results and my body was completely fine after. Ever consider the possibility that different people respond differently to things? It worked great for me. I also said that I'm already on week 3 and not turning back. Can I just get an answer to my question? I'm doing it regardless. I'm going to respectfully ask you guys again to stop telling me what to do and respect the fact that this is my body, my decision, and if I get ****ed up from it it will be a price that only I will pay. So please can someone give me a good set up on how to run this?

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    You've been told Anavar alone isn't a smart idea. Titrating is old school. My wife, a 110lb 5'4 Asian chic is on 25mg per day. Anything less than 60mg per day for a male is a waste of time.

    Run testosterone with var. Thats the safest way. If you insist on running a var only cycle, you won't get encouragement from the vets here. These guys have been cycling for years and live the lifestyle. Var + test is the way the cycle should be run.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MuscleInk View Post
    You've been told Anavar alone isn't a smart idea. Titrating is old school. My wife, a 110lb 5'4 Asian chic is on 25mg per day. Anything less than 60mg per day for a male is a waste of time.

    Run testosterone with var. Thats the safest way. If you insist on running a var only cycle, you won't get encouragement from the vets here. These guys have been cycling for years and live the lifestyle. Var + test is the way the cycle should be run.
    I 110% believe that running test with var is so much more effective. I've read posts from veterans like you a million times tell me this and I am not denying that it is true. I'm just a ***** when it comes to this though and don't want to inject anything. Also why's everyone keep saying that var only is ineffective? Maybe its a lot LESS effective than mixing it with test but I promise you I did a var only a year ago for 2 months and saw great results. Is everyone ignoring that last part? The var only cycle worked great for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WB1

    I 110% believe that running test with var is so much more effective. I've read posts from veterans like you a million times tell me this and I am not denying that it is true. I'm just a ***** when it comes to this though and don't want to inject anything. Also why's everyone keep saying that var only is ineffective? Maybe its a lot LESS effective than mixing it with test but I promise you I did a var only a year ago for 2 months and saw great results. Is everyone ignoring that last part? The var only cycle worked great for me.
    No, I don't recall saying var alone is ineffective. The doses you are proposing are a waste of time. When I run var, it's never less than 100mg and I'm not using UGL grade which is often under dosed.

    The rationale for adding testosterone is that Anavar will suppress your HTPA function. The negative feedback caused by Anavar will down regulate your natural testosterone production. Testosterone is what makes you a MAN, so why on earth would you want to decrease your natural levels and not replace it with synthetic/exogenous sources?

    You can certainly run Anavar by itself if you chose to. It's your body but if you want the benefits of anabolics, get over the needle fear. Danger is real, fear is a choice. If you can't man up and inject real anabolics, oral cycles by themselves aren't the best option and the people with the most experience will advise otherwise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MuscleInk View Post
    No, I don't recall saying var alone is ineffective. The doses you are proposing are a waste of time. When I run var, it's never less than 100mg and I'm not using UGL grade which is often under dosed.

    The rationale for adding testosterone is that Anavar will suppress your HTPA function. The negative feedback caused by Anavar will down regulate your natural testosterone production. Testosterone is what makes you a MAN, so why on earth would you want to decrease your natural levels and not replace it with synthetic/exogenous sources?

    You can certainly run Anavar by itself if you chose to. It's your body but if you want the benefits of anabolics, get over the needle fear. Danger is real, fear is a choice. If you can't man up and inject real anabolics, oral cycles by themselves aren't the best option and the people with the most experience will advise otherwise.
    I will consider the test. If I'm already on week 3 of var only is it too late to incorporate that? Also I'm a manlet - 5'6 and 160 lbs. Do you still think doses of 40-60mg are too little of an amount for me?

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    Quote Originally Posted by WB1

    I will consider the test. If I'm already on week 3 of var only is it too late to incorporate that? Also I'm a manlet - 5'6 and 160 lbs. Do you still think doses of 40-60mg are too little of an amount for me?
    If you're 3 weeks in, testosterone propionate would likely be a good choice. It's a short ester and peak serum concentrations are achieved faster. You would need an AI to prevent aromatization and HCG during the cycle is strongly recommended before your PCT of tamoxifen and clomid.

    I'm 5'7, 185 (I was 150lbs in 2009). I'm running var now. 100mg per day with my testosterone .

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    A lot of good advice and options given above.
    My thoughts are I jumped off my roof when I was a kid and didnt get hurt. I did it a 2nd time, same results, 3rd time not so lucky.

    Why keep doing what you are doing until you get hurt just because you got away with it once or twice?
    It's also easy to stop 3 weeks in. Ive done it more than one. You just stop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WB1 View Post

    I 110% believe that running test with var is so much more effective. I've read posts from veterans like you a million times tell me this and I am not denying that it is true. I'm just a ***** when it comes to this though and don't want to inject anything. Also why's everyone keep saying that var only is ineffective? Maybe its a lot LESS effective than mixing it with test but I promise you I did a var only a year ago for 2 months and saw great results. Is everyone ignoring that last part? The var only cycle worked great for me.
    Why are you asking for advice then??

    You answered your own question and got great gains

    But its not gains the vets are giving you advice about its your health!!

    Do either option they are both as useless as each other

    Good luck for the future !!!!!!!!!!!!

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    I don't pyramid just choose your dose and go from there.

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