Best androgenic fat burner after tren

Hi, I’m looking for a beginner cycle, and I’m used to throw in Tren for fat-burning purposes, but due its a beginner cycle, whats the best androgenic fat burner after tren???
Dont tell diet, cardio clen or T3, Its only an androgenic compound question, which could do a better job for a novice. I was thinking about Anavar, oral winstrol, or Masteron or even primobolan, but honestly, don’t really know which could be better.
I know masteron is wonderful if you are already very lean, under 10%, but if you are at 12-14% then Tren would be the key but if you don’t have tren, what else?

Test and diet can do wonders

yeah but test and diet are not on the list. why?? because test and diet are already used!!!

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Originally Posted by Euroholic

Test and diet can do wonders

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Originally Posted by XxAndreaxX

yeah but test and diet are not on the list. why?? because test and diet are already used!!!

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You asked for a beginner cycle. That's what Euro gave you.

Why you think all those compounds listed are for beginners beats me. But then, so do most things you come up with.

because those compounds do not come up with prolactine issues, and not even estro.
the worst that could happen is DHT related problems, but you have them actually in test.
Test and diet might be right, but its not a valid answer in this thread, because its actually used, because test and diet is a must, if you're talking about this compounds.
Its the same: I need a fast car, which one should I buy, a Ferrari, a lamborghini, a porsche, a bugatti, and then you answer, a car with wheels and engine does miracles!!!!

Most peoples Beginner cycle = test

Andreas beginner cycle = test + var + d'bol + mast + proviron + halo

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Originally Posted by Back In Black

Most peoples Beginner cycle = test

Andreas beginner cycle = test + var + d'bol + mast + proviron + halo

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No, Andrea's beginner cycle = test + 1 of those compounds, and clen or dbol or both, depending if someone has to put on mass, or get lean or both

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Originally Posted by XxAndreaxX

No, Andrea's beginner cycle = test + 1 of those compounds, and clen or dbol or both, depending if someone has to put on mass, or get lean or both

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Funny, your first cycle had multiple compounds.

What exactly is your question here? ,ore to the point. Why do you think steroids are magic?

which compounds in the poll, are best for fat loss after tren. If tren is the best Androgenic fat burner, and test is a basic compound already used, which comes next???

Ok, I'm out. Beginner cycle = test.

I voted other. Fat loss depends on diet and cardio more than any magic bean.

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Originally Posted by Back In Black

Ok, I'm out. Beginner cycle = test.

I voted other. Fat loss depends on diet and cardio more than any magic bean.

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here in spain a beginner cycle is tren deca winstrol and proviron as AI and PCT....

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Originally Posted by XxAndreaxX

here in spain a beginner cycle is tren deca winstrol and proviron as AI and PCT....

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I am at a loss for words...,,

Don't use steroids to lose body fat, use steroids to build muscle tissue when you gain tissue it will have a drastic effect your bf levels anyway. Control your body fat levels by manipulating your food intake and combining this with the right cardio regime

T3 will do wonder in a aid to fat loss.
add it with enough anabolic to keep muscle from wasting(moderate dose of test enough)

and if everything else is in check it should be great cutting cyclce.
Masteron or var will help too.

many had very sucessful cutting cycle with a simple test/var/T3.

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Originally Posted by jim230027

I am at a loss for words...,,

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X2. Seems logic in Spain has been lost. But the women are hot.

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Originally Posted by kelkel

X2. Seems logic in Spain has been lost. But the women are hot.

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yes they are! Good morning Kel!

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Originally Posted by XxAndreaxX

here in spain a beginner cycle is tren deca winstrol and proviron as AI and PCT....

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Fvcking hell if that mess is a first cycle what does a advanced cycle look like for you dafties in spain ?

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Originally Posted by jim230027

yes they are! Good morning Kel!

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Merry xmas Jim. Pleasure working with you sir.

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Originally Posted by kelkel

Merry xmas Jim. Pleasure working with you sir.

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Merry Christmas buddy ;)

I always get a good laugh from ur threads

masteron will give you hair loss not fat loss.

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Originally Posted by XxAndreaxX

here in spain a beginner cycle is tren deca winstrol and proviron as AI and PCT....

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Does Spain know what your doing for it's public relations?

^^^^^ lol

Maybe all the Mexicans are moving back to Spain ? Sounds like their logic ? I know xanadrem thinks he is in Spain but is so brain dead from anabolics he is in Mexico ?

I am asking this in general because this is just what I have noticed in my area of the USA ?

The Mexican guys in the Gym train very hard ; but they have no routine they work like ants and work hard very few get size or cut ?

They try to use every machine in the gym and do every exercise they can think of ? Is that just GA or do any other people notice this type of routine from Mexican's ? + I have seen them train for over 2 hours non stop and I mean train hard and look like they may have done a few push-ups ? Maybe we are selling xanadream short > He probably eat to much and trains to hard ?

hey buzzard, merry Christmas! how's your bloodcloth doing??
What's Xanadrem??
The people here are fckin up their health with their cycles. first it was only about test deca and winstrol... now they replaced test with tren. they are all inecting 200mg of tren acetate once a week, or some are inecting tren acetate 400mg once every 2 weeks.
and everyone ends up with an accordeon dick. I want them to do things right and to see results. I think for cutting, masteron could be the best after tren.

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Originally Posted by XxAndreaxX

hey buzzard, merry Christmas! how's your bloodcloth doing??
What's Xanadrem??
The people here are fckin up their health with their cycles. first it was only about test deca and winstrol... now they replaced test with tren. they are all inecting 200mg of tren acetate once a week, or some are inecting tren acetate 400mg once every 2 weeks.
and everyone ends up with an accordeon dick. I want them to do things right and to see results. I think for cutting, masteron could be the best after tren.

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You haven't a clue about anything.

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Originally Posted by XxAndreaxX

hey buzzard, merry Christmas! how's your bloodcloth doing??
What's Xanadrem??
The people here are fckin up their health with their cycles. first it was only about test deca and winstrol... now they replaced test with tren. they are all inecting 200mg of tren acetate once a week, or some are inecting tren acetate 400mg once every 2 weeks.
and everyone ends up with an accordeon dick. I want them to do things right and to see results. I think for cutting, masteron could be the best after tren.

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Xanadrem = Slang refrence to your DA !

Very probable that Masteron caused false PSA blood reading that showed possible positive for Prostate Cancer :)

Again you are clueless and jokeluar that you would have the nerve to state that some people on this forum are messing up there libido with Tren and Deca . . . . You are a Nut Ball I am 54 on Masteron Tren and Deca and only take 120 mg of Test a week and have more wood than I can stand I think you may have erictial disfunction or it may be you are just seeking cyber attention ? You really need to see a urologist ? Then a Shrink because you are mental ? Are you transgender ?

I am 54 on TRT and IMHO Provirion would make a great cut compound ( I have researched and like the claims ! I have not used in 30 years !) and I am going to drop the Masterone :) since the claims a similiar on each ? Anyone care to comment ?

You need to read more and spout ship less ! In the Anabolic section there is a great stickie that you should read and it explains the facts about Tren and Test and you could stop being such a foolish person and take only these 2 compounds and if which I know it is not by your assnin post diet was in check you could acheive anything you wanted and save $$$$ if you would bother to read and learn ! That is going to be my new on / off life time routine and 30 mg of Deca a week for joints !

So STFU with your stupid statements and try to learn ! I am still doing / learning and when I post up something incorrect an expert will advise me and I listen and if I had listened I would never of had the high PSA reading for Prostate Cancer ! You are a fool and if you went to a Dr. I seriously bet you would be hospitilized ! Damn enough already !

this thread is so full of love lol

Inject a quarter cup of coffee into your jugular and get ready to burn off every fat cell your body contains in a matter of 5 minutes.

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this thread is so full of love lol

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lol Tis the season :)

so, for you buzzard, its proviron??

XXAXXDREMXX


You are such a troll ? You did not even read the content of my post ? You are so lacking in knowledge ; not to say that I am an expert but atleast I do research a compound before using and you just read parts of post from different people and take what you want from each one and start posting like yoou are an expert when your post show you are clueless ?

Do you even know what Provirion is how to take it , how much , what state it is , why you take it what it does , ?

You are a troll and nothing more than a joke to make post and for some reason people reply and you keep on not being offended ?

All compounds effect different people in different way in different amount there are no set rules other than nutrition makes change not the amout of gear . IMO some enhance or men would not take but you are clueless as to amount , why , risk , and have been posting on this forum for over a year .

I have also and still trying to learn and I am not qualified to give advice other than compounds and nutrition I have experienced and how they effect me ?

You need to read and study and stop posting so many assnine Threads ! You think people are going to spoon feed you ?

How could you trust anything anyone told you when you are the running joke of the forum and people tell you to inject Coffee to loose weight and you are a nerd now with no size and sad definition ? For the life of me I have never heard of anyone so stupid as to make the statement ; "How can I retain water weight " and be serious , this one statement blows my mind. I ask this not being mean and not to be offensive to others are you mentally comptent ? Are you legally walking the streets where ever you are and have the ability to obtain all the DRugs you do and you have admitted to recretional drug use also ? What gives lad ?

Before anyone should answer another post you make ; you sould be required to post a quality pic of yourself with todays paper in it because you have posted so many fake and poor quality pics ! If you do not look like someone who would turn heads when you walk into the room you should be ashamed and stop posting and spend that time learning how to eat and how to lift weights !?

<> Why will you never post one single pic of you alone with a current News Paper so for once people will know you are not FOS ?
<> Why do you state things as fact, that are falseless claims even to me a beginner
<>Will you post a pic ?
<> If no , why not ?
<> If no will you stop the trolling until you do ?
<> Please :)

Be clear you are very disliked by me due to all of your pure trolling and all the laughable post you make so again I ask please do not even address me or refrence me in you nonsense !

Try 3 hours in a car with a hose from the tail pipe to the passangers window and make sure the engine is running I read some where that , that would put you into deep REM sleep and your days in the gym would not even be necessary anymore ! If you want a once in a life time experience try this and the post the results ?

NO AS DUMB A$$ AS YOU ARE YOU MAY TRY THIS ! DO NOT DO THIS AS THE CARBON MONOXIDE WOULD KILL YOU ! I MEANT IT AS A JOKE BUT YOU ARE SO GULLABLE YOU MIGHT GIVE IT A SHOT SO NO THAT IS NOT SOMETHING I WANT EVEN YOU TO DO !

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Originally Posted by BuzzardMarinePumper

XXAXXDREMXX



Try 3 hours in a car with a hose from the tail pipe to the passangers window and make sure the engine is running I read some where that , that would put you into deep REM sleep and your days in the gym would not even be necessary anymore ! If you want a once in a life time experience try this and the post the results ?

NO AS DUMB A$$ AS YOU ARE YOU MAY TRY THIS ! DO NOT DO THIS AS THE CARBON DIOXIODE WOULD KILL YOU ! I MEANT IT AS A JOKE BUT YOU ARE SO GULLABLE YOU MIGHT GIVE IT A SHOT SO NO THAT IS NOT SOMETHING I WANT EVEN YOU TO DO !

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LMFAO!!! Merry Christmas !:D

It's CARBON MONOXIDE

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Originally Posted by Lunk1

It's CARBON MONOXIDE

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I was frustrated ? Sorry and yes you are right :) thanks and I hope you had a Merry Christmas !

lol , see I admit I am far from an expert but the general idea was I thought he may try it and didn't want that to think I caused his transformation :)