19 And Can't Fuck My Girlfriend! Help!!! Young Ppl Read This!

[D Mc C]

Im so fucking stupid! I spent 2 years researching AS and I do know a lot about it. I did a STUPID deca\win cycle. I had my reasons but im not gonna discuss them. My cycle was;
week 1-8 deca (tt) 180mg every 4 days
week 2-8 winny (valopharm) 50mg ed
week 11-12 1\2 clomid (anapharm) 100mg ed
week 12 1\2-14 clomid (anapharm) 50mg ed
i know this is not a proper stack and the timing of winny was 3 weeks too early. The bottom line is that it is week 14, im taking ZMA and trib. and I still can't get wood! What should I do?
I know deca "shuts you down hard". I read the posts about deca dick but never really thought about it. I never even considered it happening to me. To all you guys out there under 21 thinking about doing a cycle, just try to imagine how it feels to be laying beside your naked, hot girlfriend and not be able to fuck her!!!

WHAT SHOULD I DO!?!?!?!?!?!?

[Polska]

You can keep taking OTC test boosters even though personally I don't think they would do you any good. Your htpa will recover on its own, you made a mistake and now you're going to have to reap the consequences. If you're not on your way to recovery in 4 to 8 weeks (as in, things aren't any better) go see your doc.

[Billy_Bathgate]

HCG 1000ius for 10 days
100mg clomid next 20 days

that should do it

[D Mc C]

thanks for the help. bump. hope u young guys are reading this

[flexgolf]

i dont get why he is so messed up post cycle. i know deca can give ya deca dick while you use it. and that everyone reccomends a test help u keep a boner. but the added test to your cycle will shut down your natural test production even more. and once your done with ur deca/test cycle...it would be harder to recover ur natural test production because you shit it down more. can someone clarify how taking test with deca makes ur post cycle natural test recovery any better???

[Polska]

Billy_Bathgate... am I wrong in thinking that taking the HCG now would be pretty much useless in the long run? It would help for the time being but would do nothing to help natural LH production, in fact, it will suppress it. So he'd be right back where he started. Or am I wrong? just wondering.

[gundam675]

test anybody??? ur gf gonna hate u, i feel bad, lol i forsaw this shit happening and did some test at the last minute... my boy shrunk, but i was still satisfied !

[Rickson]

Well he is already suppressed that is obvious. Personally I would jump on a 10 mg morning dbol regime to eliminate the immediate problem and then use the HCG and clomid while on the bridge. Lets get you out of the crash and start post cycle over.

[winny freak]

Originally posted by gundam675
test anybody??? ur gf gonna hate u, i feel bad, lol i forsaw this shit happening and did some test at the last minute... my boy shrunk, but i was still satisfied !

Your boy shrunk? I thought just testes shrank, not the fella.?
Is that from the deca? I apologize, but thats a new one to me.


FREAK

[D Mc C]

I think im gonna take 100mg cialis tabs until my boy can stand at attention naturally. does this sound ok? $7.50\canadian per 100mg tab sound ok?

[Billy_Bathgate]

HCG will cause stimulation of the Leydig cells in your testicles. Since testosterone is made there, having them at full size will allow them to produce testosterone and a fuller capasity.

HCG becomes suppressive with high use for longer (3wks+) of use.

Perhaps you are right, this may set him back temporarily, but in the end he will be far ahead.

[WS6_KID]

Originally posted by D Mc C
Im so fucking stupid! I spent 2 years researching AS and I do know a lot about it. I did a STUPID deca\win cycle. I had my reasons but im not gonna discuss them. My cycle was;
week 1-8 deca (tt) 180mg every 4 days
week 2-8 winny (valopharm) 50mg ed
week 11-12 1\2 clomid (anapharm) 100mg ed
week 12 1\2-14 clomid (anapharm) 50mg ed
i know this is not a proper stack and the timing of winny was 3 weeks too early. The bottom line is that it is week 14, im taking ZMA and trib. and I still can't get wood! What should I do?
I know deca "shuts you down hard". I read the posts about deca dick but never really thought about it. I never even considered it happening to me. To all you guys out there under 21 thinking about doing a cycle, just try to imagine how it feels to be laying beside your naked, hot girlfriend and not be able to fuck her!!!

WHAT SHOULD I DO!?!?!?!?!?!?

Not to be a dick or anything but just because you put together a poor cycle that wasn't thought out doesn't mean that all AS users under 21 will suffer "deca dick" as you have. Next time plan a better cycle

[RON]

IMO Rickson's got it 100% a short mild dbol bridge will kick start his test while he's waiting for the clomid and HCG to bring up his natural test production. You still might see some problems down the road but this will help. IMO once you mess with your natural test production its never 100% the same.

[Farm boy]

wait till your 34 and can't get it up to screw your wife. talk about some frustrating shit!

[2timer]

don't worry about use your tougue and fingers and within 3 to 4 weeks you be horny goat again! I was lucky my girl was in the army when the dick dick was happening. I never used any clomid or hcg. I just used zinc and it worked!

[halifaxsteve]

Originally posted by D Mc C
Im so fucking stupid! I spent 2 years researching AS and I do know a lot about it. I did a STUPID deca\win cycle. I had my reasons but im not gonna discuss them. My cycle was;
week 1-8 deca (tt) 180mg every 4 days
week 2-8 winny (valopharm) 50mg ed
week 11-12 1\2 clomid (anapharm) 100mg ed
week 12 1\2-14 clomid (anapharm) 50mg ed
i know this is not a proper stack and the timing of winny was 3 weeks too early. The bottom line is that it is week 14, im taking ZMA and trib. and I still can't get wood! What should I do?
I know deca "shuts you down hard". I read the posts about deca dick but never really thought about it. I never even considered it happening to me. To all you guys out there under 21 thinking about doing a cycle, just try to imagine how it feels to be laying beside your naked, hot girlfriend and not be able to fuck her!!!

WHAT SHOULD I DO!?!?!?!?!?!?

bro...i hate to say it, but this is the biggest contradiction i've ever heard..."I spent 2 years researching AS and I do know a lot about it."

A) if you had done 2 yrs worth of research, and knew a lot about AS use, you would have planned out a much better/effective cycle

B) had a realistic expectation of the sides, and when/what they would appear

C) planned an appropriate post cycle therapy, with a contingency plan for interm loss of libido

it's got nothing about being under 21...it could (and does) happen to anyone, at any age.

take the above adivce, and if you choose to do another cycle, please do more planning next time!

[flexgolf]

Originally posted by flexgolf
i dont get why he is so messed up post cycle. i know deca can give ya deca dick while you use it. and that everyone reccomends a test help u keep a boner. but the added test to your cycle will shut down your natural test production even more. and once your done with ur deca/test cycle...it would be harder to recover ur natural test production because you shit it down more. can someone clarify how taking test with deca makes ur post cycle natural test recovery any better???

im clueless here. yes i see how deca can help loss of libido while on the deca cycle. but why does the addition of test to your cycle make the recovery of your natural test production any better?? seems to me like it would recovery more difficult.

[halifaxsteve]

Originally posted by flexgolf



im clueless here. yes i see how deca can help loss of libido while on the deca cycle. but why does the addition of test to your cycle make the recovery of your natural test production any better?? seems to me like it would recovery more difficult.

ok flex, test is added to maintian libido, and help in the bulking. it does nothing for post cycle recovery...i have no idea how/why this was even mentioned!?

[flexgolf]

Originally posted by halifaxsteve


ok flex, test is added to maintian libido, and help in the bulking. it does nothing for post cycle recovery...i have no idea how/why this was even mentioned!?

i mentioned this because this guy is having difficulties post cycle. not during his cycle. he says :
"My cycle was;
week 1-8 deca (tt) 180mg every 4 days
week 2-8 winny (valopharm) 50mg ed
week 11-12 1\2 clomid (anapharm) 100mg ed
week 12 1\2-14 clomid (anapharm) 50mg ed"
implying to me that he finished his cycle. has done his clomid. yet his dick doesnt work right. so im just wondering why everyone is saying that he messed up because now that his cycle is over, and he has done clomid, his natural test should have came back.

but everyone is discussing how he should have taken test during his cycle. but it seems to me like his problem now is post cycle. and taking test during your cycle does not affect your post cycle issues.

[flexgolf]

Originally posted by halifaxsteve


ok flex, test is added to maintian libido, and help in the bulking. it does nothing for post cycle recovery...i have no idea how/why this was even mentioned!?

i mentioned this because this guy is having difficulties post cycle. not during his cycle. he says :
"My cycle was;
week 1-8 deca (tt) 180mg every 4 days
week 2-8 winny (valopharm) 50mg ed
week 11-12 1\2 clomid (anapharm) 100mg ed
week 12 1\2-14 clomid (anapharm) 50mg ed"
implying to me that he finished his cycle. has done his clomid. yet his dick doesnt work right. so im just wondering why everyone is saying that he messed up because now that his cycle is over, and he has done clomid, his natural test should have came back.

but everyone is discussing how he should have taken test during his cycle. but it seems to me like his problem now is post cycle. and taking test during your cycle does not affect your post cycle issues.

[majorpecs]

Originally posted by Rickson
Well he is already suppressed that is obvious. Personally I would jump on a 10 mg morning dbol regime to eliminate the immediate problem and then use the HCG and clomid while on the bridge. Lets get you out of the crash and start post cycle over.

This is the BEST advice you will get...DO IT!

[Steve]

I agree that the dbol bridge will definaley help for the time being till you can get your nat test going. Think i need to try that myself as my drive is very low after just comming off a cycle

[JohnnyB]

I think what he is trying to say is he reseached for 2 year did what he thought was a cycle he wanted to do. I would guess that in that research he was told or read that starting AAS before maturation was a bad idea, but went ahead and did it anyway and is now having peoblems that could have damaged him for life.

Here's the problem of starting before your growth plates are closed. Your hormones are at their peak then you shut them down with no garantee that you'll get them back to where they were because your body has not established what your hormone levels are yet. That comes with the maturation process, your body has established your height and hormone levels, before that it's a shot in the dark. Now some will say I started when I was in my teens and I have no problems, you don't know if you have problems or not until you get into your 30's.

But like all of us it'll never happen to me, I'm not that stupid, he just didn't know what he was doing, I wouldn't of done it like that, I would of ________. Believe me when I was younger I did alot of thing that were never going to effect me, it was for the other guy not me. Now I'm paying for those thing physically.

For those future AAS users that haven't receached that place of full growth and devolopement. Think of the future because it will be on you sooner then you think or want it to.

JohnnyB

[flexgolf]

just wondering...were u 18 or 19 when u started this cycle???

[PumP~N~Swole]

Guys alot of ppl say to do a cycle of test when mixing it up with like deca. Now alot of you are saying how could this help post cycle taking test and I'm guessing nothing but I think a guy up top asked him the question WHY he didn't involve test along with his cycle. I've also read to involve test with the deca that I'm going to soon start. The question I have is how does implicating test into a cycle help with deca dick if some of you thinks it will shut you down more? Only reason I ask this is to clarify if I should in fact run test with this deca I have to help with deca dick or if it will screw me worst... I gots confused here hehe ..

Thanks.

[flexgolf]

the addition of test in a cycle does suppress your natural test production. but this added test also allows to reap the benefits that natural test gives....boners and such

[halifaxsteve]

Originally posted by PumP~N~Swole
Guys alot of ppl say to do a cycle of test when mixing it up with like deca. Now alot of you are saying how could this help post cycle taking test and I'm guessing nothing but I think a guy up top asked him the question WHY he didn't involve test along with his cycle. I've also read to involve test with the deca that I'm going to soon start. The question I have is how does implicating test into a cycle help with deca dick if some of you thinks it will shut you down more? Only reason I ask this is to clarify if I should in fact run test with this deca I have to help with deca dick or if it will screw me worst... I gots confused here hehe ..

Thanks.

test will help with bulking and gains, as well as keep your libido up during the cycle...

as far as post cycle, the appropriate treatment is listed above.

test will help with the deca dick, not 'screw' you, that's why it's suggested so much...

[PumP~N~Swole]

so by doing 500 test enth, 300 deca a week then start clomid 300-100-50 and doing a prohormone like 1-ad or something do you think my post cycle recovering on the natural test will be ok?

[flexgolf]

keep us up to date on ur progress...

[halifaxsteve]

Originally posted by PumP~N~Swole
so by doing 500 test enth, 300 deca a week then start clomid 300-100-50 and doing a prohormone like 1-ad or something do you think my post cycle recovering on the natural test will be ok?

pump...why run deca @300mg/wk? go with 400 and keep the test @500

[D Mc C]

flexgolf- i was 19 when i started my cycle.

can anyone send me a link to a post that explains bridging?

[Billy_Bathgate]

Originally posted by PumP~N~Swole
so by doing 500 test enth, 300 deca a week then start clomid 300-100-50 and doing a prohormone like 1-ad or something do you think my post cycle recovering on the natural test will be ok?

you will stay shut down if you take in a prohormone while clomid, ditch it and youll be fine

[D Mc C]

after reading about bridging, i loke the way it sounds. I have already completed my clomid tharapy (finished 2 days ago) and im still having problems with mr. happy. if i understand bridging correctly, i should redo clomid theropy with hcg and d-bol? if so, for how long? i was to understand that bridging is the space between two cycles. are you also suggesting that i research a second cycle and start it after the bridge?

anyone with information on this please reply. you guys have no idea how scared i am. i appreciate everyone's imput more than i can tell ya.

[D Mc C]

oh, and will there be a problem with me taking viagra until my nat. test takes over?

[PumP~N~Swole]

Steve, The reason I'm just doing 500 test and 300deca is because i've never cycled before and I don't want to go to big and regret how my body responds at the same time I want it to be a decent enough cycle so that for being my first time will be an ok cycle. If no extreme side effects I'll start raising it up and trying new things. Granted I want to cycle and want to get jacked but I'm asking every question that comes to mind and each day I have a new one. I want to learn as much as I can before I start. Learning,Reading, Asking, then experimenting is the key.

[D Mc C]

i poped 50mg of viagra last night and it didn't help. im reading about bridging but i still am not sure if i understand it correctly.I have already completed my clomid tharapy (finished 2 days ago) and im still having problems with mr. happy. if i understand bridging correctly, i should redo clomid theropy with hcg and d-bol? if so, for how long? i was to understand that bridging is the space between two cycles. are you also suggesting that i research a second cycle and start it after the bridge?

[D Mc C]

would doing a prohormone cycle of 1-TESTOSTERONE by zoe labs help me at all?
c'mon guys. i know that i did something dumb and i really shouldn't have. now im in a situation and I NEED YOUR HELP!

[fullback40]

your back to the pro-hormone thing again.

Refer to Rickson's reply and do a search on the d-bol bridge. I highly recommend this bridge-to-post cycle recovery