Newbie with a quesion

**godspeed1208** · 12-27-2013, 10:27 AM

Hi there guys, i'm new here or have not been active for some time. I have attached a recent pic of me here and i'm thinking if i should start with gears or should i just keep training ? At the moment , i have sustanon 250 and deca with me which i have not used till now and waiting for the right time ...

Can anyone advice me if i could go ahead and start my cycle? i do not plan to take many cycles.. maybe just one to see how things go ...

Any help and advice will be much appreciated, thank you

p.s: i'm planning to get ripped(atleast have some nice muscle gains) by end of 2014 or sooner

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**ickythump** · 12-27-2013, 11:04 AM

Where do you live? Some people might take offense to that tattoo, tho I am aware that it means peace in some places I'm not sure because it's in a mirror or whatever

**godspeed1208** · 12-27-2013, 11:12 AM

i'm from singapore, and that's a god symbol for us indians....

**DeadlyD** · 12-27-2013, 11:17 AM

Welcome, post up your stats and experience so we can help you

**derekkpapa1** · 12-27-2013, 11:18 AM

Read this My First Cycle: Planning and Executing a Successful First Cycle
need more detail stats appears body fat to high- you should be training for at least a couple years diet in check ect.... Start reading as much as possible your body has to be 100% ready or u can hurt your self or cause serious health damage no magic it's all food and training

**godspeed1208** · 12-27-2013, 11:25 AM

Ok after just reading the link you provided by derekjpapa... i think the answer is to wait till i am ready

My stats are 165cm, 82.5kg, working out for about 2 months now. BF 28%(i think, according to my weight scale). Looks like i still have a long way to go before i even think about roids...

**derekkpapa1** · 12-27-2013, 11:33 AM

bro two or so years ago I was way over weight I always lifted but never cared what I ate- I learned from a lot guys here how important diet is- when the vets here say diet is 90% they r correct make a solid meal plan and stick to it train and results will come give it a chance stick to it post ur diet in nutrition section

**DeadlyD** · 12-27-2013, 01:10 PM

Originally Posted by Derekjpapa

bro two or so years ago I was way over weight I always lifted but never cared what I ate- I learned from a lot guys here how important diet is- when the vets here say diet is 90% they r correct make a solid meal plan and stick to it train and results will come give it a chance stick to it post ur diet in nutrition section

^^^^ I as well was way over weight, joining this forum was one of the best things I've done! With the knowledge I've obtained here I've transformed myself. Lots of great info here. Good luck

**Judah** · 12-27-2013, 01:14 PM

Get your BF down below 15%, its too high. This will increase your odds of negative sides if you don't reduce your bf fist through training and nutrition. No offense, but genetically you already look like you might be prone to Gyno/bitch tits, so MAKE SURE you have a really good PCT planned out. Do not do Sust and Deca on your first cycle, big no no. Choose a single ester test like Test C or Test E. DO NOT STACK MULTIPLE AI's ON YOUR FIRST CYCLE. Single ester Test will be included/the base in every cycle you do. Learn how your body reacts to that first before you go with Sust and/or stack.

**godspeed1208** · 12-27-2013, 02:28 PM

Originally Posted by Derekjpapa

bro two or so years ago I was way over weight I always lifted but never cared what I ate- I learned from a lot guys here how important diet is- when the vets here say diet is 90% they r correct make a solid meal plan and stick to it train and results will come give it a chance stick to it post ur diet in nutrition section

thank you bro, i have tried to narrow down on my nutrition for the past 3 weeks, but will post it on the nutrition section to see if it is acceptable

Originally Posted by DeadlyD

^^^^ I as well was way over weight, joining this forum was one of the best things I've done! With the knowledge I've obtained here I've transformed myself. Lots of great info here. Good luck

Thank you, hope i will learn more and hopefully transform to a better physique too ...

i'm giving my best everyday in the gym for the past 3-4 weeks....

Originally Posted by Judah

Get your BF down below 15%, its too high. This will increase your odds of negative sides if you don't reduce your bf fist through training and nutrition. No offense, but genetically you already look like you might be prone to Gyno/bitch tits, so MAKE SURE you have a really good PCT planned out. Do not do Sust and Deca on your first cycle, big no no. Choose a single ester test like Test C or Test E. DO NOT STACK MULTIPLE AI's ON YOUR FIRST CYCLE. Single ester Test will be included/the base in every cycle you do. Learn how your body reacts to that first before you go with Sust and/or stack.

Thank you for this solid advice.. i think you might be right there... i might/should be prone to gyno issues and was thinking of using nolvadex for PCT but looks like i have alot of time to research and learn from the helpful bro's here... My goal would be to get down to 15% BF now!

Thank you for guiding me guys.. really appreciate this. at least i was not too foolish to just go ahead and use them without learning more..

P.s: Did not thought sust and deca was a strong dosage... i went thru alot just to get hold of them lol

**ickythump** · 12-27-2013, 02:43 PM

Originally Posted by godspeed1208

i'm from singapore, and that's a god symbol for us indians....

Ok sorry, just making sure, welcome to the forum....everyone has good advice but I do think sust is ok for beginners from all I've learned, you just won't know if you're ready f for the amount of injections, I got bad post injection pain (wasn't I'm muscle enough turned out to be problem) and it was a bit daunting thinking about how I just got a muscle to stop hurting and now I have to pin again, but I got over it......good luck in your journey, see you in nutrition section!!

**MuscleInk** · 12-27-2013, 05:33 PM

Originally Posted by godspeed1208

Ok after just reading the link you provided by derekjpapa... i think the answer is to wait till i am ready

My stats are 165cm, 82.5kg, working out for about 2 months now. BF 28%(i think, according to my weight scale). Looks like i still have a long way to go before i even think about roids...

Waiting would be the smartest decision. Train consistently for 2 years and learn everything you can about nutrition. With consistency and dedication to a weight training and nutrition plan, you WILL see remarkable changes.

(And yes, unfortunately many people don't realize the "swastika" was around long before the Nazi party of Germany adopted it and in many cultures it is a symbol for prosperity and good luck).

**ickythump** · 12-27-2013, 07:00 PM

Originally Posted by MuscleInk

Waiting would be the smartest decision. Train consistently for 2 years and learn everything you can about nutrition. With consistency and dedication to a weight training and nutrition plan, you WILL see remarkable changes.

(And yes, unfortunately many people don't realize the "swastika" was around long before the Nazi party of Germany adopted it and in many cultures it is a symbol for prosperity and good luck).

Yea I felt bad having to ask, I don't recall off hand the exact differences and it was probably backwards in a mirror so I thought I'd ask, plus I couldn't tell based on op's complexion, sorry again bud, hope to see you around the forum!!

**MuscleInk** · 12-27-2013, 07:07 PM

Originally Posted by ickythump

Yea I felt bad having to ask, I don't recall off hand the exact differences and it was probably backwards in a mirror so I thought I'd ask, plus I couldn't tell based on op's complexion, sorry again bud, hope to see you around the forum!!

No worries. I'm sure many people would have had the same reaction you had. It's a common mistake.

**Test Rage** · 12-27-2013, 10:39 PM

Diet, Sleep, Train. Tip for your diet: Do not eat your carbs alone. Always consume carbs after solid portion of protein. Also do not combine carbs and any significant amount of fats in the same meal.

**godspeed1208** · 12-28-2013, 03:43 AM

Originally Posted by ickythump

Ok sorry, just making sure, welcome to the forum....everyone has good advice but I do think sust is ok for beginners from all I've learned, you just won't know if you're ready f for the amount of injections, I got bad post injection pain (wasn't I'm muscle enough turned out to be problem) and it was a bit daunting thinking about how I just got a muscle to stop hurting and now I have to pin again, but I got over it......good luck in your journey, see you in nutrition section!!

No problem bro, i see what you mean... i was a little reluctant to take them and guess i'll train more and get a good foundation first

Originally Posted by MuscleInk

Waiting would be the smartest decision. Train consistently for 2 years and learn everything you can about nutrition. With consistency and dedication to a weight training and nutrition plan, you WILL see remarkable changes.

(And yes, unfortunately many people don't realize the "swastika" was around long before the Nazi party of Germany adopted it and in many cultures it is a symbol for prosperity and good luck).

Thank you , i will have to really look into my nutrition as i am aware it place a big part

Yes and i did not know in some countries ppl hated the swastika(cos of the nazi ) this much...

Originally Posted by ickythump

Yea I felt bad having to ask, I don't recall off hand the exact differences and it was probably backwards in a mirror so I thought I'd ask, plus I couldn't tell based on op's complexion, sorry again bud, hope to see you around the forum!!

no prob and yes it's backwards.. cos of the mirror reflection is looks like the nazi logo..

Originally Posted by Test Rage

Diet, Sleep, Train. Tip for your diet: Do not eat your carbs alone. Always consume carbs after solid portion of protein. Also do not combine carbs and any significant amount of fats in the same meal.

Thank you i'll look into this and learn more regarding this.. i did get a meal plan which i have been using for the past 2 weeks but i'll post it in the nutrition section to see what others have to say and guide me hopefully