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    First cycle and probably a very silly question..

    I've been doing a good chunk of research and the people on this forum have been very helpful, I have decided to do a test c only 12 week cycle. I was going to try and kick start with D-bol but per members here they have said to start with just test to see how my body reacts, so that I will do.

    1-12 weeks - Test Cypionate 500 every week(2 shots of 250 probably on Monday and Thursday)
    1-12 weeks - GP Exemestane (Aromasin )12.5mg ED

    PCT - I am going to start this 14 days after my last injection

    I plan on running PCT for 4 weeks
    Nolvadex 40mg/20mg/20mg/20mg/ <--- I was told by someone on here to front load Nolvadex

    Clomid - 50mg ed for the first 2 weeks and then 25 ed for the last 2 weeks.

    So here is my silly ass question.... When attempting to buy my test c online it tells me this: (10mL) Testosterone Cypionate 250mg/mL

    I understand I need 12 weeks worth which is 9600ml of test but what I dont understand is exactly how much test I get. So if someone could please answer my silly ass question of how many I need to order to get me through my cycle I would appreciate it. Thanks!
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    You need to edit and remove the price from your post please. There is no discussion of price allowed on this board

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    Done, sorry...

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    12 weeks X 500mg EW= 6000mg
    250mg/10ML=2500mg
    3X10ML= 7500mg

    Make sense???

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    I think you need to redo your maths.

    250mg per ml
    2 shots per week = 2ml per week
    2 ml x 12 weeks = 24ml

    You will need 3 bottles. You will have some spare for your next cycle.

    Nolva is good I'd run clomid at 75/50/50/50.

    Where is your on cycle HCG ?

    Pct starts 18 days after last pin
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    Yes, I was mixing up the mg and ml. I'm actually somewhat intelligent, I swear . So if I order 3 bottles of the test c I'm gtg, thanks lunk. Another question actually, what is another AI I can run during my cycle, the place I'm ordering from doesn't have Aromasin . It does have Clomid and Nolvadex but no Aromasin and I wanted to order everything from one site....

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    You can use arimedex (anastrozol)

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    Back in Black: I wasn't going to run HCG during, I contemplated running 500iu during cycle but just decided to run an AI during..

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    Quote Originally Posted by riotz0r View Post
    Back in Black: I wasn't going to run HCG during, I contemplated running 500iu during cycle but just decided to run an AI during..
    You know they are very different things don't you?
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    Yes... My understanding is HCG will basically keep my testes functioning normally and stops them from shrinking and an AI is to help with gyno and so on.... Am I wrong?

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    Well Lunk my website is striking out because they don't have that either, guess I'll have to order from two sites... I Just trust one more a lot more than the other.

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    Lunk my source does have Letrozole , but I've heard that stuff is pretty powerful.... Whats your take on Letrozole for an AI on a cycle??

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    Quote Originally Posted by riotz0r View Post
    Lunk my source does have Letrozole, but I've heard that stuff is pretty powerful.... Whats your take on Letrozole for an AI on a cycle??
    I would avoid it. It is very affective but sooo hard to dose for most ppl.

    The site sponser on this site sells ldex and stane. I prefer the Stane (Aromasin ) myself but either works.

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    Quote Originally Posted by riotz0r
    Yes... My understanding is HCG will basically keep my testes functioning normally and stops them from shrinking and an AI is to help with gyno and so on.... Am I wrong?
    Far more severe problems can occur with elevated estrogens. Gyno isn't the biggest risk. An AI is necessary, not optional. Go with Ar-r as recommended for your AI needs.

    HCG really shouldn't be optional either.

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    +1 for arr ldex

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    Quote Originally Posted by MuscleInk View Post
    Far more severe problems can occur with elevated estrogens. Gyno isn't the biggest risk. An AI is necessary, not optional. Go with Ar-r as recommended for your AI needs.

    HCG really shouldn't be optional either.
    Yeah, I just threw gyno out there because it was the first thing that came to mind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunk1 View Post
    I would avoid it. It is very affective but sooo hard to dose for most ppl.

    The site sponser on this site sells ldex and stane. I prefer the Stane (Aromasin) myself but either works.
    I was going to buy the tablets of clomid, nolvadex and an AI... Thats why I wasn't going to go through ar-r , I've heard that stuff taste horrible so I figured if I could get the tabs I would...

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    Quote Originally Posted by riotz0r

    I was going to buy the tablets of clomid, nolvadex and an AI... Thats why I wasn't going to go through ar-r, I've heard that stuff taste horrible so I figured if I could get the tabs I would...
    Cialis from Ar-r tastes great....tastes a little TOO good IMO, lol

    Agreed. I'd chose tablets over liquids. I don't recall if Ar-r uses PEG in their suspensions. I know some people worry about long term risks with PEG exposure and tend to avoid PEG based products, whether warranted or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MuscleInk View Post
    Cialis from Ar-r tastes great....tastes a little TOO good IMO, lol

    Agreed. I'd chose tablets over liquids. I don't recall if Ar-r uses PEG in their suspensions. I know some people worry about long term risks with PEG exposure and tend to avoid PEG based products, whether warranted or not.
    LMAO! That Cialis is sooo tasty, and good for you lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunk1

    LMAO! That Cialis is sooo tasty, and good for you lol.
    They need to put an MI-proof cap on those Cialis bottles so I don't drink it all at once!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MuscleInk View Post
    They need to put an MI-proof cap on those Cialis bottles so I don't drink it all at once!!!!!
    I wont even tell you my (fun) dose. It's so tasty!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunk1

    I wont even tell you my (fun) dose. It's so tasty!
    Dose? I thought I was supposed to drink the whole bottle. Guess my blue penis isn't from the blue dye in the liquid C. Lol

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