Test and deca cycle

[pitweiler]

I'm looking to stat this cycle within a week or two. I just want everything in order before I do. I'm doing a low dose to test out the sides and for the joints.
I'm going to be getting BW here soon before I start also.

Test C- 600mg a week
Deca- 150mg a week
AI- .25 EOD
HCG - 500 IUs a week
Prami on hand

PCT
Tamox- 40/40/20/20
Clomid- 50/50/25/25

The HCG that I have is a Chinese brand. It came In a small vial and another liquid in another vial. I have bac water that I intend to use instead of the liquid they've provided. My question is that it doesn't look like much liquid will fit in with the HCG. How do I get the HCG out so I can mix it with the correct amount of bac water? Just put bac water into the vial, use a syringe to transfer to a bigger sterile vial to mix with the right amount of bac water?

[jimmyinkedup]

I'm looking to stat this cycle within a week or two. I just want everything in order before I do. I'm doing a low dose to test out the sides and for the joints.
I'm going to be getting BW here soon before I start also.

Test C- 600mg a week
Deca- 150mg a week
AI- .25 EOD
HCG - 500 IUs a week
Prami on hand

PCT
Tamox- 40/40/20/20
Clomid- 50/50/25/25

The HCG that I have is a Chinese brand. It came In a small vial and another liquid in another vial. I have bac water that I intend to use instead of the liquid they've provided. My question is that it doesn't look like much liquid will fit in with the HCG. How do I get the HCG out so I can mix it with the correct amount of bac water? Just put bac water into the vial, use a syringe to transfer to a bigger sterile vial to mix with the right amount of bac water?

You got it on the hcg..just dont forget to incorporate the bac water you add initially or your concentration will be off. Stop deca before cyp. Pct start like what 18 days post final cyp injection? Ai is dex im assuming? For pct add a week or 2 of just nolva. Deca is very surpressive..ive found that helps recovery.

[clarky.]

I'm looking to stat this cycle within a week or two. I just want everything in order before I do. I'm doing a low dose to test out the sides and for the joints.
I'm going to be getting BW here soon before I start also.

Test C- 600mg a week
Deca- 150mg a week
AI- .25 EOD
HCG - 500 IUs a week
Prami on hand

PCT
Tamox- 40/40/20/20
Clomid- 50/50/25/25

The HCG that I have is a Chinese brand. It came In a small vial and another liquid in another vial. I have bac water that I intend to use instead of the liquid they've provided. My question is that it doesn't look like much liquid will fit in with the HCG. How do I get the HCG out so I can mix it with the correct amount of bac water? Just put bac water into the vial, use a syringe to transfer to a bigger sterile vial to mix with the right amount of bac water?

Yes exactly that just add a little back water to the hcg then draw it out put in another sterile vial them put the rest of the bac water in to the desired dose that you want.

[pitweiler]

Sorry I forgot to post the time frame of everything.
Test - 1-12
Deca - 1-10
Dex eod

Hcg - 1-12 (I've also heard to run it up until the day of PCT. which is better?

I was going to start pct 14 days after last injection but if 18 days is what I should do then Ill do that

[jimmyinkedup]

Sorry I forgot to post the time frame of everything.
Test - 1-12
Deca - 1-10
Dex eod

Hcg - 1-12 (I've also heard to run it up until the day of PCT. which is better?

I was going to start pct 14 days after last injection but if 18 days is what I should do then Ill do that

Stop HCG 3 days before pct and cyp=18 days post final inj for pct start time.

[Back In Black]

At last today, somebody not only old enough but can also do the research and post a cycle plan.

My faith is restored

[Rida5d]

U ve Ben answered by some of the most experienced members here.
I, myself, won't shut myself that hard for only 150 mg/week.
My first trial with deca was at 350 mg/week, and ended up with decent gains.

[fit2bOld]

That all said start a cycle log in the members cycle forum and track your results.
Many guys come on here thinking they will gain 40 lbs in 3 months and get a pro card as well. If you eat and train correctly 10 lbs kept is awesome.
Will be good to have your experience posted as a reference for others.
Fit

[pitweiler]

U ve Ben answered by some of the most experienced members here.
I, myself, won't shut myself that hard for only 150 mg/week.
My first trial with deca was at 350 mg/week, and ended up with decent gains.

That's why I love this site. So many knowledgeable people that look out for everyone's health.

How's this look

Test C - 600mgs 1-12
Deca - 300mgs 1-10
Dex - .25 EOD
HCG - 500 IUs 1-14 +4days
Prami on hand

PCT
Tamox - 40/40/20/20
Clomid - 50/50/25/25/25

[pitweiler]

That all said start a cycle log in the members cycle forum and track your results.
Many guys come on here thinking they will gain 40 lbs in 3 months and get a pro card as well. If you eat and train correctly 10 lbs kept is awesome.
Will be good to have your experience posted as a reference for others.
Fit

I'm not looking for unrealistic results. Ill be happy to gain 10lbs of lbm. I'm sure you could gain 40lbs but I'm sure the majority will be fat. I don't want to work harder after to burn it all off if I don't have to. So hopefully keep it as lean as possible. I'm pretty sure my diet is in check also and plan on getting that critiqued as well before I start.

Ill most likely. Create a log to keep track of my results.
Thanks for all of the quick replys!

[pitweiler]

When mixing bac water with the HGC how much should you use? I've seen people say to use 5cc bac water and 2cc bac water. Which is best? If I add it to the same barrel of the test/deca should I put the HCG in the barrel first or last and where on the barrel will mark the 250 IUs ?

[ickythump]

No mix is best as far as I've heard, I went 5000/5ml, but where the 250 lands is up to how you diluted it......personally I did the 5k/5 because it made it easy to measure, but I only inject once every two weeks in the same day I do hcg, so it's completely separate

[Cuz]

That's why I love this site. So many knowledgeable people that look out for everyone's health.

How's this look

Test C - 600mgs 1-12
Deca - 300mgs 1-10
Dex - .25 EOD
HCG - 500 IUs 1-14 +4days
Prami on hand

PCT
Tamox - 40/40/20/20
Clomid - 50/50/25/25/25

id say that was ok, but pct id go another week on nolva and up the first two weeks of clomid to 70mg

[pitweiler]

id say that was ok, but pct id go another week on nolva and up the first two weeks of clomid to 70mg

So Clomid 70/70/25/25/25? Why up it because the deca shuts you down so much?

[pitweiler]

I mean

So Clomid 70/70/25/25/25/25? Why up it because the deca shuts you down so much?

[fit2bOld]

More about having to recover from the use of multiple compounds.

[pitweiler]

More about having to recover from the use of multiple compounds.

Would you do the same with dbol or just tren

[Rida5d]

Ur cycle looks fine.. 300 Mgs of deca are more reasonable..
My pct with deca is clomid 100/50/50/50
Nolvadex 40/20/20/20/20

[pitweiler]

I went to go get blood work done privately from that site but they don't let me do it in my state and they won't let me go to a neighboring state either. Is there any other way I can get the right blood work done? My health insurance is through the VA and I don't think they will do exactly what I need.

[kelkel]

Call your local lab and ask them if there are any resources they can direct you to. Never know!

[pitweiler]

I've called two local places and they both said that they wouldn't accept people from my state. I'm gong to keep trying to find a place but how unsafe is it if I just run my cycle and go by the sides if I need to use the prami.

[kelkel]

Well BW is always first choice but honestly the majority don't do it and survive. It's not the best course of action, nor what we preach here but it's reality. If you have to guess I'd simply run the prami, imho. Especially if you're not sure about managing your E2. If you are good at E2 management then you should be fine without it. It's not a whopper of a deca dose regardless.

[pitweiler]

I'd rather be safe with BW. It makes sense and safe. But there's kinda no other choice If I can't find any place. What's a good dose to run the prami? I heard that you should start with a low dose and gradually work your way up.

[pitweiler]

If I remember correctly I think someone mentioned to start at .12 and work your way up to .5 EOD?

[Bowtye8]

Can you explain you hcg again? I would say my pkg was a chinese version as we'll. A vial of bac water(break top off)and vial of powder. I just mixed those 2 together to get the 5000iu.

[pitweiler]

Can you explain you hcg again? I would say my pkg was a chinese version as we'll. A vial of bac water(break top off)and vial of powder. I just mixed those 2 together to get the 5000iu.

Sounds like I have the same HCG. From what I hear you don't want to use the liquid that comes with it. It doesn't last as long. It's ment for a one time thing. Everyone mixes it with bac water

[pitweiler]

From what I hear you don't want to use the liquid that comes with it. It's ment for a one time thing. I guess with that liquid it doesn't last as long. Everyone uses bac water.