Cycle #2 need help planning for pct

**cmanmarine** · 01-06-2014, 06:32 AM

Need some help with PCT complications I had from previous cycle...
28yr
5'5
128lbs
avg BF% 13
diet average
workout 3x week Cardio&legs EOD
Next cycle planned SAME AS BELOW!

Previous Cycle
12 week Test Prop 50mg ED =350mg week
on cycle stats:
135lbs
BF% 9ish
Absolute 0 sides NUTS EVEN STAED THE SAME SIZE until week 10 slight gyno...
after cycle nuts started to shrink, acne neck region, lethargic
PCT normal Nolv&Colm but my body didn't like either pill nolva would make me feel like I had something wrong with my heart and clomib made me lethargic and feel crazy. Played around with that for a week then discontinued then took test booster for a month AND MASSIVE HAIR FALLING OUT DURRING... Took about 3 months to "FEEL NORMAL" again...

Need some advice on how to tackle this PCT beast maybe HCG ...? maybe lower dose Nolv/Colm 2x length taken to compensate... WHILE ALSO AVOIDING THE DHT HAIRLOSS PROBLEMS AS WELL
educated, knowledgeable and experienced advice only please

**gixxerboy1** · 01-06-2014, 07:01 AM

your not going to like the answer. But dont worry about the pct. Worry about you "average" diet. Your only 128lbs after a cycle and was 135 on? You need to change your diet and grow, not cycle.
You only have 8lbs on my avi and she never touched a drug, just eats well and bust her ass in the gym

**cmanmarine** · 01-06-2014, 07:17 AM

No I was 120 before first cycle, gained 15lbs while on and currently 128 lost alot due to lack of PCT.

**gixxerboy1** · 01-06-2014, 07:21 AM

Originally Posted by cmanmarine

No I was 120 before first cycle, gained 15lbs while on and currently 128 lost alot due to lack of PCT

exactly the girl in my avi is 120lbs.
You need to work on your diet and put on some size. You dont need steroids . Your diet couldnt even support the 135lbs, it wast just because of bad pct

**cmanmarine** · 01-06-2014, 07:50 AM

Protein intake about 1.5weight pp + fairly clean eating - weekend junk

Ive religiously been in the gym 3 yrs my natural genetic potential is around 125 Im "asian". Help me out and throw some knowledge at that PCT

**marcus300** · 01-06-2014, 08:03 AM

Originally Posted by cmanmarine

Protein intake about 1.5weight pp + fairly clean eating - weekend junk

Ive religiously been in the gym 3 yrs my natural genetic potential is around 125 Im "asian". Help me out and throw some knowledge at that PCT

Its simple you need to learn how to eat and build a foundation, if you don't using steroids will do nothing and eventually once you stop using them you will go back to your weight you started at because your diet cant support any new tissue. I would also look at how to train to stimulate muscle growth because these two areas you need to concentrate on before any drugs are put in your system. Don't ignore this post and think you know best because you don't, you don't train right or eat correctly that's why your the weight you are. That's the hard facts but its the only way your going to learn steroids will do nothing for you only testicle shrinkage

**cmanmarine** · 01-06-2014, 08:07 AM

True.... But any knowledge on PCT anyone...?

**gixxerboy1** · 01-06-2014, 08:09 AM

Originally Posted by cmanmarine

Protein intake about 1.5weight pp + fairly clean eating - weekend junk

Ive religiously been in the gym 3 yrs my natural genetic potential is around 125 Im "asian". Help me out and throw some knowledge at that PCT

I'm your height and wrestled 119 and 125 in college, you can grow naturally. Asian has nothing to do with it, there are plenty big asian guys that are members here

**Cuz** · 01-06-2014, 08:31 AM

yeah bro, you need to list how many cals you are eating. a full diet plan would be nice, you got room to grow still.

**marcus300** · 01-06-2014, 08:40 AM

Originally Posted by cmanmarine

True.... But any knowledge on PCT anyone...?

You need knowledge on diets and how to train not pct, read my post don't ignore it we are trying to help you

**clarky.** · 01-06-2014, 09:16 AM

Listen to the big man ^^ thats why he is the size he is he knows what he's talking about

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**kpham08** · 01-06-2014, 12:01 PM

I am Asian as well, and I'm still natural. Just contemplating a cycle right now and research, lots of it. My height is 5'3 and weight is 155. My bench is 295, deadlift 385, and squat is 345. I did all this with consistent training and diet. No anabolics so you can do it too. You need to count your calories your probably not eating enough.

**local81support** · 01-06-2014, 12:11 PM

SOMETIMES GETTING THAT LITTLE EXTRA HELP IS GOOD FOR THE INDIVIDUAL forums like this are essential to growth and development

**cmanmarine** · 01-06-2014, 01:49 PM

Can anyone advise on pct...!!!???

**jgrayson60** · 01-06-2014, 02:37 PM

Originally Posted by cmanmarine

Can anyone advise on pct...!!!???

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=368656

Look towards the bottom of this thread for PCT INFO, but honestly your diet is worst than mine and I really dont know sh!t, but from a newbies perspective your not going to get anywhere. Its like trying to get a plant to grow with no nutrients, its not going to happen.