tren/gyno help!

[tsmooth21]

Hey guys I'm new here and I have a few questions....... first off I recently got gyno. Like an idiot I did a half cc of test for about 2 months. Then a half cc of test combined with a half cc of tren for about 2 months. Then continued to do a full cc of tren for about a month until I started seeing gyno. I know that gyno is caused by high levels of e and I know the cycle I did was pretty stupid. My questions are what do you think caused the gyno? I've been off for about 3 months and I'm thinking about running a cycle of tren again by itself, good or bad idea? Half cc EOD. I also did not pct on my last cycle and can I pct by slowly tapering down on my dosage? I just really don't want my gyno to get worse. Thanks

[derekkpapa1]

are serious do u use a ai run pct give us more info
hope what I read was a mistake
U ran 2 mns test
Then 2 mns test and tren
Then just tren

Wtf

[MuscleInk]

are serious do u use a ai run pct give us more info
hope what I read was a mistake
U ran 2 mns test
Then 2 mns test and tren
Then just tren

Wtf

.....all at 21 years of age. WTF is right!

[tsmooth21]

No ai. No pct. Not really lookin to get bashed guys just some advice. Yes I ran a 5 month cycle half cc EOD. Stupid I know. Didn't do research. Just jumped into it.

[MuscleInk]

No ai. No pct. Not really lookin to get bashed guys just some advice. Yes I ran a 5 month cycle half cc EOD. Stupid I know. Didn't do research. Just jumped into it.

You'll get advice but expect to get a little bashed lol. People are gonna give you a bit of shit for being reckless. Just man up, smile, and take it on the chin.

Have you had any blood work done? Your E2 and prolactin are probably all over the place.

[tsmooth21]

No blood work done. No doctor visit at all. I just stopped immediately when I started seeing signs of gyno. I'm not sure if I can get access to an ai or anti e. Was the gyno caused by coming off test with the elevated e and going straight to a full cc of tren ? And if I start a half cc of tren EOD what can I do to prevent my minor gyno getting worse?

[kelkel]

I'm embarrassed for you. In this day and age, with information readily available to you at your fingertips you did not take the time to do one bit of research on the substances you were putting into your body. I'm truly amazed but shouldn't be.

Start reading everything you can here to self educate. Specifically Austinites Educational Articles Sticky Thread. It's full of info that will help guide you. Read, read and read some more. Great info here. It's time to "not" hurt yourself. And you no doubt had a "friend" giving you advice somewhere along the way. Kick him in the nuts.

[tsmooth21]

What kind of harm could I have done to my body? I'm leaning more towards just staying natty. Could I have low test now from running test for four months straight?

[GSXRvi6]

Well first, I'm amazed when people state "I used 1cc of this half a cc of that" that doesn't really mean much, your dosing should be in milligram not cc's that's why you see mg/ml (aka how many milligrams per milliliter)

Not an expert but Tren is a majorly harsh compound and shuts your natty test down hard, so running tren alone is, well, really stupid. Depending on your compounds you may be a fellow life long TRT patient at the ripe young age of 21! congratulations to having to do injections for the rest of your life!

What are your compound esters and doses? Do you have REAL gyno flair up (lumps) or are they puffy/milk man style?

[tsmooth21]

The syringe said 1cc. I did half for sometime. Then I worked up to a whole cc. I'm not sure of the tren ester but the test was propianate. Started with test prop. Worked up to a full cc from a half over two months time. Then did half cc of tren mixed with half test. Then full tren my gyno has a gritty tissue under the nipple and around it. No lactatiin. I would call it minor gyno. I also have some excess skin so it looks a little worse than it could be.

[Back In Black]

You really need to get some bloodwork done and see where your test and E2 levels are. Only then can we really help you.

Let's hope your recklessness hasn't caused any permanent damage.

[Kiki]

You started at 21? That was around my age 2.

Listen br0...i'm goin to give you some brotherly advice...cause i haven't been on here since I had low test levels.

Cut out all the juice...you don't need it yet at all. Eat healthy, workout hard. Build your Ego through alternative ways...21 + juice doesn't mix well.

The more you use teh sauce, the more you risk harm to yourself. Health + long life > Short, testosterone fueled rage and early death.

[GSXRvi6]

The syringe said 1cc. I did half for sometime. Then I worked up to a whole cc. I'm not sure of the tren ester but the test was propianate. Started with test prop. Worked up to a full cc from a half over two months time. Then did half cc of tren mixed with half test. Then full tren my gyno has a gritty tissue under the nipple and around it. No lactatiin. I would call it minor gyno. I also have some excess skin so it looks a little worse than it could be.

That still doesn't tell you dose, and how often did you do that, 1cc per day? week?

Test Prop was most likely 100mg/ml

Your CC's is the volume of oil, your dosage will be in mg, there is a wide range, my source has 100mg/ml test and 300mg/ml of test, so if you shot 1cc every day of 100mg/ml that's 700mg per week of test, if you shot 1cc of 300mg/ml that's over 2 grams of test per week, huge difference in dose even tho it's the same amount of cc's

[kelkel]

The syringe said 1cc. I did half for sometime. Then I worked up to a whole cc. I'm not sure of the tren ester but the test was propianate. Started with test prop. Worked up to a full cc from a half over two months time. Then did half cc of tren mixed with half test. Then full tren my gyno has a gritty tissue under the nipple and around it. No lactatiin. I would call it minor gyno. I also have some excess skin so it looks a little worse than it could be.

The syringe said. WTF. What did the bottle say? Please don't say somebody was giving you pre-loaded syringes....

[tsmooth21]

I'm not exactly sure what the bottle said. The tren had no label on it. They weren't pre loaded. I've decided to just say **** the juice. Stay natty.

[tsmooth21]

One more thing...while getting blood work done is it safe to tell them I was juicing and I want to get everything checked? What are key things I need to get tested?

[MuscleInk]

One more thing...while getting blood work done is it safe to tell them I was juicing and I want to get everything checked? What are key things I need to get tested?

No! You don't want the use of illegal drugs in your medical history!

Tell them you've been feeling tired, weak, your sex drive is down and you've read that those might be related to low testosterone or high estrogen I'd you'd like to have your hormones tested.

[anon99]

Listen br0...i'm goin to give you some brotherly advice...cause i haven't been on here since I had low test levels.

Did you get pre-AAS labs? Are you saying you have had confirmed low T since running your cycle? What was your cycle? Did you run HCG during? Did you run PCT?

Not interrogating just trying to learn from other's experience.

One more thing...while getting blood work done is it safe to tell them I was juicing and I want to get everything checked? What are key things I need to get tested?

CBC, CMP, LH, Free & Total Testosterone , Estradiol (E2)

Tell them you don't want them to write about your AAS use in your chart. They can use Fatigue or Erectile Dysfunction as a reason to run the labs.

[anon99]

As for gyno one of your best options would be Tamoxifen (Nolvadex - Estrogen antagonist at breast adipose). If your doctor is nice they'll prescribe it to you. Should go away pretty quickly.

[tsmooth21]

How would I go about getting prescribed nolvadex ? I have no primary doctor

[dusted411]

Please for the love of god don't run tren by itself, especially when you don't even understand mgs yet.
Take the advise of the people who are telling you to learn as much as you possibly can about all this stuff before you even think about using anymore juice.
I was the same way as a kid I used to just grab whatever bottles that I could get my hands on and trust my other teenage friends when they told me to just fill the pin with x amount of cc's. I'm in my thirties now and I just had an ultrasound done on my liver because I have spots on it that the dr thinks was caused by my estrogen levels being out of whack most likely from back then running anything I could get my hands on and not giving pct a thought in the world, your generation has a world of information at your fingertips my advise would be to use it.
Goodluck kid

[lovbyts]

One more thing...while getting blood work done is it safe to tell them I was juicing and I want to get everything checked? What are key things I need to get tested?

No, pay for the labs yourself, it's not expensive.
http://www.*************.com/lab_tes...4&search=#1033

[Kiki]

Did you get pre-AAS labs? Are you saying you have had confirmed low T since running your cycle? What was your cycle? Did you run HCG during? Did you run PCT?

Not interrogating just trying to learn from other's experience.

The hospital i've got free health insurance with confirmed it after I volunteered to have my bloodwork done with them. I was feeling really depressed, I actually know what it feels like to be a female and depressed like a b!tch rofl. Worst time of my life, don't want to ever go back- i'd rather die.

My dick works properly again, multi orgasms are back and the brainfog has been lifted.

Be wary, live long!!