Quick ques about pct new old products info about stats new user

[ken9]

Hello Am 23 years old been training for 8 years am 1.77tall 87kg with 13%bf or less sth like that
Now i never used an kind of cycle i was all those 8 years training dieting with out messing an season or meal haha barley do am kinda dedicated to this like a drug lol..

I been cutting bulking changing workout plan etc doing all that stuff tried all natural products

been searching reading about this for quit some time now i know how to push my body if i wanna gain weight or if i wanna cut up i know exactly how my body react
deadlift 150kg for 6 reps and am cutting btw
bench 110-130kg max for 2 reps
squat 185kg(today) for 7 reps those are my stats now i was bulking now cutting but still doing same wight anyways i wanted to try a test e cycle but first wanted to ask you guys about pct products

Wanted to ask about pct it seems like now days pct been so complicated unlike oldschool or just ppl wanna make ppl buy products that they sponsors
Seems like there is like 8 or 9 products recommended for pct example
novala
Unleashed
PhytoSERM-347 (this cost 200$ btw)
N2 GUARD
GW-501516 (Cardarine
MK-2866 (Ostarine)
Hcg( this 1 i know for long time known for long time)
clomid( i know this 1 too not new)
Liquidex (This for AI)
Bridge
Am not being cheap here i just want to know really now ppl use all that to make the pct perfect ? i mean if you guys have experience with this i will surely do use all of them its better to pay no matter how much it cost than being sorry later in life cus u was cheap but do i need all of those?

I know that ppl always use clomi novala and Hcg
Or some use unleashed new product with hcg and clomid

Am running 500 test t for 13 week that's about it

Now you guys recommended clomid with novala and hcg and an AI

But i was told clomid and novala sucks they raises SHBG and nolva lowers Igf also nolva or clomid do not lower estrogen and when you come off of its not uncommon to have a estrogen rebound also

They can cause Major triglyceride and glucose problems and even to the point of Severe hypertriglyceridemia or also Pancreatitis



So what you guys think ?


Apologies for long msg tried to make it as simple as i can

Cheers!

[Muscleduke]

http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-s...rst-cycle.html

[ken9]

xactly i read it all very good topic i read it all great post but i wanted more info about those new products what u guys think any1 have experience i see must ppl here all they do for their pct is clomid novala and hcg

[Bio-Active]

Your ai and hcg are for on cycle and you only need to serms for pct. Clomid nolvadex.

[ken9]

So the other products not worthy it ? that i listed on my first post ?I have with me nolva and clomid i got an AI Aromasin hcg on the way
But what about other products an experience make you feel better than nolvadex or clomid ?Also what u think about my cycle for my stats can it be done
thanks alot for replys guys i appreciate it just dont want to buy loads of pct products that wont do me much

[Bio-Active]

First cycle should be test only with hcg and an ai alongside with the 2 serms for pct. I suggest you read the beginner cycle stickys and the pct stickys

[ken9]

Oright i did read it thanks alot Jim! just 1 last thing is there anything ppl use after pct that can help in mood or any kind since its my first time some ppl get depression and things like that

[Bio-Active]

Oright i did read it thanks alot Jim! just 1 last thing is there anything ppl use after pct that can help in mood or any kind since its my first time some ppl get depression and things like that

this is the bad part of cycling during pct or after this is something almost everyone has to deal with but with a properly planned out cycle it can be smoother. There are always risks though

[ken9]

Alright thanks alot jim!
Cheers