2 cycles

[cypher23]

Hey guys, second cycle here. First was 250mg of test a week which I realize was low, this one currently is 500mg of cypionate, while using an AI every other day.(arimadex). First one I came off wrong, this one I have nolva ready for the end. I know I'll get trashed for the endocrine system not developing, but I'm 22, 5'9, and weigh 193.4 with probably 12-15% bf. don't know if I've already done the damage but if I come off and wait a while until my next can I still make some decent gains with proper nutrition and intense training after I've already introduced hormones? Thanks bros!

Also I bought some deca too, due to further research I have not used it, because apparently it shuts you down hard. Is there other alternatives that are better than 19 Nors for future reference?

[king6 II]

You can always make good gains with proper diet and exercise. Have you already started this cycle?

[cypher23]

You can always make good gains with proper diet and exercise. Have you already started this cycle?

Yes I have I'm almost done with it. Gonna start nolva in two weeks

[ken9]

It's better if u keep deca away wow ur 22 and already on ur second cycle am 23 and am so worired even tho i did all my research got every pct and all products ready but i dunno lol
Anyways back to ur ques yes you can make gains after the cycle natural even if u cycle once u will still do now remember when you use cycle ur body reach genius potional witch means it will be hard to gain weight nothing new here lean mass never comes easy like when on cycle as natural u will still make gains just keep eating and hitting it hard why u dont use hcg durn ur cycle its very important durn cycle to use hcg

[cypher23]

It's better if u keep deca away wow ur 22 and already on ur second cycle am 23 and am so worired even tho i did all my research got every pct and all products ready but i dunno lol Anyways back to ur ques yes you can make gains after the cycle natural even if u cycle once u will still do now remember when you use cycle ur body reach genius potional witch means it will be hard to gain weight nothing new here lean mass never comes easy like when on cycle as natural u will still make gains just keep eating and hitting it hard why u dont use hcg durn ur cycle its very important durn cycle to use hcg

To my knowledge hcg is very hard to get. However I have a doctor locally who hands it out like candy. He competes too lol. Ironic. And ya idk man I want to take everything higher and higher. I don't want to be a recreational user. I wanna be an Ifbb.

[ken9]

Aha well that's another story you know when competing in bodybuilding like my friend once said "Ur health is the last thing you have to worry about" haha
By the way I received my hcg with an 15 days lol..from different country i bought it from an online website its good for the balls u know lmfao and other factors ofc haha

[cypher23]

Aha well that's another story you know when competing in bodybuilding like my friend once said "Ur health is the last thing you have to worry about" haha By the way I received my hcg with an 15 days lol..from different country i bought it from an online website its good for the balls u know lmfao and other factors ofc haha

Ya I mean my health is a concern. But you don't see people dropping dead from bodybuilding even at 10 iu's of growth and all the other compounds. Ya know?

[Bio-Active]

Did you run labs after your last cycle to see if you recovered? What did you run for pct? How long ago did you finish your pct from the last cycle?

[cypher23]

Did you run labs after your last cycle to see if you recovered? What did you run for pct? How long ago did you finish your pct from the last cycle?

We'll as stated I didn't run anything the first time(stupidity) and I recently went to the doctors for blood work everything checked out but this was 3 months after being off. This time as mentioned again I have everything. The AI and the nolva. I've been using the AI every other day at .25mg

[Bio-Active]

So your not going to answer any of those questions?

[Bio-Active]

Are you on cycle now?

[cypher23]

Are you on cycle now?

Yes two weeks left, I still have another thing of test too. I kind of want to start blasting and cruising. But I know at my age everyone will disagree. Then when I'm 30+ I can worry about walking into the doc asking for hcg and stuff

[cypher23]

Are you on cycle now?

At least I did my research in the deca tho and refrained from using it, despite how bad I wanted too...

[Bio-Active]

Sorry I missed that you are already on cycle. At your age you really need to do the right thing, come of and run a solid pct. You do not want to be on trt for the rest of your life.

[cypher23]

Sorry I missed that you are already on cycle. At your age you really need to do the right thing, come of and run a solid pct. You do not want to be on trt for the rest of your life.

Won't I need trt when I'm that age anyway? And I don't want to wait until 30 to start molding my dreams as an Ifbb. It needs to happen now, IMO, I'm open and respect advice but what do you think on that topic?

[Bio-Active]

Won't I need trt when I'm that age anyway? And I don't want to wait until 30 to start molding my dreams as an Ifbb. It needs to happen now, IMO, I'm open and respect advice but what do you think on that topic?

at 22 I would not want to be on trt for the rest of my life depending on meds to function

[cypher23]

[QUOTE="jim230027"]at 22 I would not want to be on trt for the rest of my life

True but won't you need therapy at a older age anyway?

[Bio-Active]

maybe maybe not. Not everyone ends up on trt