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    Total Test Lab Results. 21yrs. Test E Cycle.

    Background:

    21 yrs old. 5'6". Currently 145lb. Peaked at 155lb. Understand counting calories and macros. Workout consists of high volume and frequency currently.

    Why:

    Get to where I want faster ~ 160lb. Currently researching steroids. Thinking about using.

    Just received results of Total Testosterone, Serum 408 ----- 348-1197 ng/dL Thoughts?

    I'll be getting some liver levels from my past accutane treatment(2 months ago) that I'll be sure to look at before deciding to use AAS.


    Here is what I will/have on hand:

    2x Testosterone Enanthate 250 (250mg/ml) 10ml
    50 caps - Nolvadex 25mg
    3x HCG 5000 IU
    50 caps - Clomid 25mg
    Arimidex 1.5mg/ml 60ml



    Other Supplies:

    Alcohol swabs
    Sterile 25 gauge or above syringes(1.5")
    Sterile 22 gauge needles


    *Planning to get the needles and syringes from RUI


    The Cycle
    Weeks 1-10 Testosterone enanthate 500mg per week(250mg on Monday and 250 mg on Thursday )
    Weeks 1-13 Arimidex .5mg everyday
    Week 5 250iu Human Choronic Gonadotropin on pin day. 500iu per week
    Weeks 6-13 Human Choronic Gonadotropin- Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) 500iu per week
    Last 10 days Human Choronic Gonadotropin - 1000iu

    Post Cycle Therapy
    Weeks 1-4 Clomafene Citrate (Clomid)- 50mg everyday
    Weeks 1-2 Tamoxifen citrate (Nolvadex) 40mg everyday
    Weeks 3-4 Tamoxifen citrate (Nolvadex) 20mg everyday

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    Bad idea man. Honestly, if you fully understood macros and dieting like you said....you'd be heavier already. At your age, you have no need for steroids

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    Made most of my gains at your age bud stick it out. time your 24-25 you will be 20-30 pounds heavier trust me I was 125 when I first started at like 10% bf now its 8 years later an I'm 180 at 6% bf. Some strong words for you are eat healthy track your numbers an scale them up as needed an squats bench deads heavy rows Thats what builds a body

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    No deal... Ur to young. Get ur diet in check and train hard until at least 25. If your diet is correct u will make them gains.

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    You should hit the nutrition forum. You can still make tons of gains natty for a long time and if you start to run gear now you will be robbing yourself from future gains. Not to mention are you aware of the risks that come with cycling?

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    Just received results of Total Testosterone , Serum 408 ----- 348-1197 ng/dL Thoughts?

    as a 21 year old

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    At your age your levels should be 700

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    Quote Originally Posted by dem_gains View Post
    At your age your levels should be 700
    And this is based on what?

    This is one test, time of day sexual activity can effect the levels. Many would be delighted to have that level naturally especially this ole guy.

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    408 at 21? I wouldn't be delighted with that. He should get another test done though.

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    It's kinda odd to see it kinda of low and now that I been reading about low test effects I feel like I have them. I always been an athletic (Boxing, tennis, weightlifting, surfer) person that has struggled to put on weight due to not hitting my macros and high activity levels. For the past year I been eating a lot better and I feel as if I'm putting on muscle at a very slow rate

    I plan on getting another test done to check free and total again. Thanks for your thoughts.

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    Going through my labs from my previous Acctuane treatment two months ago. Everything for the Lipid Profile looks like its within range. During the acctuane treatment one month my AST and ALT levels were elevated and during this time I got slight gyno. Nothing that is noticeable. It has been getting smaller after we stopped my acctuane treatment.

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    I would go over that low Test number with some various doctors in your area and get some opinions regarding it. I'm not going to tell you to not do steroids as I would be a hypocrite, but just know what you could be potentially getting yourself into. However I would say that if your quality of life is suffering due to low Test symptoms, try the TRT route with doctor supervision or go for a 12 weeker of 500mg Test E, with proper AI (Aromasin at 6.25mg twice a day taken with fats has been proven to be the most effective and safe AI IMO), HCG (250iu E4D starting week 3-12), and PCT use (I prefer solo Toremifene, I can literally see and feel a difference in testicular recovery after 3 days of 120mg). Screw the Nolva and Clomid, do some research on SERM toxicity and estrogen rebound and you'll see why I say that. You can also look into Resveratrol and DAA to add in with your PCT. Get bloods done during and after your cycle and relay those numbers to the forum in order to get continuing feedback on your situation if need be. Make sure to do as much research as you can on all of these topics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fit2bOld View Post
    And this is based on what?

    This is one test, time of day sexual activity can effect the levels. Many would be delighted to have that level naturally especially this ole guy.
    Google average test levels by age. There are credible studies. 400 at such a young age is not acceptable. Especially with no gear use

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    Anything I should do about my slight gyno in my left nipple from the Acctuane treatment?

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