Planning my Test Cyp + Tren Ace cycle

**ElDude** · 01-22-2014, 12:33 PM

Hey guys, been a while since I last posted up on here...

27yo male- 6'0 218lbs 16%BF

Previous cycles include a test only cycle and a test/anavar cycle. I really want to see what Tren is all about. I am looking to shed some BF and get that "hard" type of look while keeping strength and size, maybe increase if possible.

Test Cyp (pre-loading for 3-4 weeks) then 250mg/wk week 1-12
Tren Ace: 350mg/wk pinning ED week 1-12
hCG : 250iu 3x per week M W F
Arimidex .25mg M W F

Prami is on hand in case of any prolactin related sides

I have some anavar on hand too and have been thinking of throwing this in the mix for the last 5-6 weeks, but I definitely do not want to go overboard with this, any suggestions would be great.

Any thoughts, comments, suggestions? I plan on doing PCT 2 weeks after my last test cyp pin with Nolva and Clomid. I am a little confused when it comes to the PCT, I have heard people saying to not use Nolva when using Tren. Should I use Prami during the first couple weeks of PCT to help with any prolactin related sides?

Thanks guys.

**redz** · 01-22-2014, 12:45 PM

You should run nolva and clomid for pct.

**Bio-Active** · 01-22-2014, 12:56 PM

When you start your pct the Tren will be out of your system mostly. The prami would be for on cycle prolactin support if needed. As stated nolva and Clomid for pct

**JohnnnyBlazzze** · 01-22-2014, 03:31 PM

I would run Prami from start, not just wait for prolactin problems. It'll help you sleep to.

**ElDude** · 01-22-2014, 04:28 PM

Originally Posted by JohnnnyBlazzze

I would run Prami from start, not just wait for prolactin problems. It'll help you sleep to.

What doses are a good start for prami? is it .5mg to start and titrate to 1mg per day? I have heard it can make people very sleepy, is it best just to take it at night?

How harsh is the ED from Tren use? Is this usually a side of high prolactin?

Appreciate the responses guys.

**JohnnnyBlazzze** · 01-22-2014, 04:44 PM

Originally Posted by ElDude

What doses are a good start for prami? is it .5mg to start and titrate to 1mg per day? I have heard it can make people very sleepy, is it best just to take it at night?

How harsh is the ED from Tren use? Is this usually a side of high prolactin?

Appreciate the responses guys.

It makes me really nauseas if I start right away at .5. I usually do .2 for a few days then .5 then eventually up to 1mg if I feel the need to. Majority of the time I just stay steady at .5mg though. It will make you sleepy and might upset your stomach so before bed is best.

ED i'm assuming you're referring to erectile dysfunction? I run my Test higher then my Tren and don't experience any issues with ED, I also take small dosages of cialis daily when I run tren. I have experienced a little more difficulty being able to climax while on tren which isn't always a problem lol.

I couldn't give you an accurate answer in reference to if your prolactin being the cause of your ED without looking through some of my old findings, from what I remember high PRL can lead to ED. Nothing I've personally experienced though. Might want one of the guys to help confirm that for me or shed more light on it.

**ElDude** · 01-23-2014, 08:08 AM

I appreciate the info Johnnny!

Would anyone recommend running the Anavar for the last 5 weeks of this cycle? Or should I just stick with the Test/Tren ?

What kind of on cycle support should I be running with this? I am already upping my h2o intake have vitamin/mineral/fish oil supplements. Should I get liver support? Something like N2Guard?

**ElDude** · 01-23-2014, 03:04 PM

bump

**king6 II** · 01-23-2014, 03:13 PM

I would leave the var out, any gains made from the var will likely be shadowed by the tren . Multi V, coq10, liver support if you wish, lipid support if needed as well.

**JohnnnyBlazzze** · 01-23-2014, 03:42 PM

Originally Posted by ElDude

I appreciate the info Johnnny!

Would anyone recommend running the Anavar for the last 5 weeks of this cycle? Or should I just stick with the Test/Tren ?

What kind of on cycle support should I be running with this? I am already upping my h2o intake have vitamin/mineral/fish oil supplements. Should I get liver support? Something like N2Guard?

You're fine with prami and adex for your cycle support. You can get injectable b12 if you want.

I don't know if I would run Tren for 12 weeks if I were you. I normally run my Tren at 6-8 weeks max. You can use anavar if you want, i wouldn't waste my time with it though if you're only running it for 5 weeks.

See how you do with Tren/Test first before introducing a 3rd compound.