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    CYCLE ADVICE NEEDED/appreciated

    ABOUT ME
    5' 7.5" currently 175, 13%bf- guess, have lifted for very seriously 2 years, played sports before that, did a few cycles of SDrl, another PH (DMZ)
    previous 6 months bulked to 200, 20%bf I'd guess, cut down to where I'm at over last 2 months 175 , 13%bf (aware this was quicker than I should have went)

    I am going to cut down to 10%bf, do a cycle of aas MARCH,

    GYNO/AI QUESTION

    I do have some mild gyno from a PH cycle when I knew nothing.
    what I plan on doing from what I've heard

    start letro - first day at .5mg/1mg/1.5/2/2.5mg - then run at 2.5 mg until gyno goes away?? could someone verify
    also if it doesn't go away I would drop down (gradually same rate) to a normal .5mg or .25 mg/day, hold this level/dosage constant and run my aas cycle?

    note^
    I would be starting the letro 2 weeks prior to scheduled start of my AAS cycle, hopefully that cures my gyno, cause I'm under the impression if it doesn't subside after 2 wks letro at 2.5mg/day then it won't? or even if it might i just shouldn't run that high of a letro dose for that long

    NOW THE MORE EXCITING PART, how should I stack the compounds I have?

    weeks 1-8 test e 600mg/ week
    weeks 8-12 test p 600mg/week
    weeks 1-4 dbol 50mg/day
    weeks 1-8 anavr 70mg/day
    weeks 8-12 winstrl 50mg/day (injectable not oral)

    recently have been thinking of saving my Winnie for my next cycle and running like below so I'd only be running one oral at a time even though anavar isn't harsh on the liver
    weeks 1-8 test e 600mg/ week
    weeks 8-12 test p 600mg/week
    weeks 1-4 dbol 50mg/day
    weeks 4-12 anavr 70mg/day

    also wanted to run some peptides regardless of which of the two above outlined cycles I go with
    weeks 1-16(through PCT) ghrp 150mg 2x day 2.1G/week
    weeks 1-16(through PCT) cjc 1290 500mg 3x week 1.5G/week


    WHAT DO YOU ALL THINK OF MY PLANS/ CYCLE?

    any help / comments appreciated thanks



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    also will be running 300iu hcg twice a week from weeks 2-11, + 500iu each of the last 3 days of week 11

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    Terrible set up here... You're first cycle should be test ONLY. Plus you're a tad too young and should consider waiting a few years until using steroids

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    What exactly makes it a terrible set up? So I can learn..

    Haven't ran the cycle yet, so it may be just test only if that's truly the best option. I don't understand why that would be though, maybe you could explain.. thanks

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    Hopefully you're ready for some serious critiques. At your age you should be making the most of your youthful natural testosterone levels rather than screwing up your neuroendocrine system, quite possibly for life by shutting your HTPA down.

    First, give this thread a thorough read.

    http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-s...-steroids.html

    Then, if you're still determined to cycle despite recommendations NOT to, read this thread.

    http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-s...rst-cycle.html

    You don't need all that crap for a first cycle. Keep it simple. See how your body reacts to injectable testosterone alone, make sure you use an AI (NOT LETROZOLE), and get your clomid and tamoxifen for your PCT

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    You're only 19 or 20 anyways you want to use steriods already?
    I dont think that's a good idea its going to you hurt you badly why dont u work a bit harder buy ur self some food supplement then 2-3 years more do it
    also Steroids cost alot with pct and food supps all that expensive you need to keep that in mind am 23 an am still waiting am here just reading learning stick in here read around hit the gym hard by the year of 23-25 you will be an expert on this you will have alot of experience then u can do it with out being worried just my 2 cents man i hope you will do that health is most important thing in the world not looking fit remember that

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    Quote Originally Posted by ken9
    You're only 19 or 20 anyways you want to use steriods already?
    I dont think that's a good idea its going to you hurt you badly why dont u work a bit harder buy ur self some food supplement then 2-3 years more do it
    also Steroids cost alot with pct and food supps all that expensive you need to keep that in mind am 23 an am still waiting am here just reading learning stick in here read around hit the gym hard by the year of 23-25 you will be an expert on this you will have alot of experience then u can do it with out being worried just my 2 cents man i hope you will do that health is most important thing in the world not looking fit remember that
    ^^^ you just earned bonus points with me! Good advice. Better he hear it from someone his own age!!!

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    ^Appreciate the advice bro, probably the smartest choice in my situation. However, we don't always make the wisest decisions, I have put a lot of though into it and feel it is the right decision for me, maybe all the conditions aren't ideal but I'm trying to do this as safe/ smart as possible.

    Further I'm not saying I am going to die before 25 and the one thing I'll regret is not trying AAS, I am just saying certain aspects in my life would have great benefit to them by using AAS right now, the benefit from using them later likely wouldn't be as great

    Also I already bought all the stuff, (yes it was expensive!) - anavar especially

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    Quote Originally Posted by mf33
    ^Appreciate the advice bro, probably the smartest choice in my situation. However, we don't always make the wisest decisions, I have put a lot of though into it and feel it is the right decision for me, maybe all the conditions aren't ideal but I'm trying to do this as safe/ smart as possible.

    Further I'm not saying I am going to die before 25 and the one thing I'll regret is not trying AAS, I am just saying certain aspects in my life would have great benefit to them by using AAS right now, the benefit from using them later likely wouldn't be as great

    Also I already bought all the stuff, (yes it was expensive!) - anavar especially
    Well lets hope you're around a lot longer than 25!!! Lol. It would be a shame to live such a short life, right?

    I'm not sure what aspects in your life would benefit now versus later. There are plenty of men on here who waited until their 30s or later. Heck, I was 38 before I decided to try anabolics. Some of our older members are in better shape than most younger guys and took the time to educate before they medicated.

    We've got numerous members here aged 19-24 who cycled early. They ran "perfect cycles" but their natural testosterone didn't recover and now they struggle with erectile dysfunction, fatigue, low sex drive, difficulty maintaining muscle, depression, anxiety, and more. No one wants that at any age, especially when you're in the prime of your youth. All those guys believed nothing could go wrong too.

    I'm not saying the worst will happen, but no one here can guarantee you won't have problems and if you do, you'll have to face them head on and hope you will eventually recover.

    Again, if the experience and advice of knowledgable members isn't something you want to listen to, keep your cycle simple with a single test ester. The other compounds WILL keep. They aren't going to expire in 30 days. They have a long shelf life.

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