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    dem_gains is offline Junior Member
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    Help planning second cycle

    Background: just finished first cycle of test e 500mg week 12 weeks. On last week of pct and kept about 25lbs so far. Weigh 187 at 12%

    Plan to keep calories up until sept so I can keep my newfound mass and then do a cutting cycle.

    Thinking of the following

    Test prop 200mg mon wed and fri 10 weeks
    Anavar 60mg Ed 10 weeks
    Proviron - may add for more sex drive and freeing up some test but is it harsh on hairline?
    Hcg - 250ui on mon and fri is that fine?


    Then pct clomid 70/50/50/50 nolva 40/20/20/20

    Is taking prop mon Wed fri instead of eod ok? I know blood levels won't be completely stable but does it really matter? Like to limit number of injections

    Goal is to drop from 12 to 6% bf and try be as heavy as possible

    Also any input on optimal anavar dose

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    How soon are you planning on your second cycle? Remember to allow sufficient time off between cycles. As far as keeping your serum levels stable I believe it is best to help avoid potential side effects. 60mg of var is a good starting point, people with more cycle experience will run higher doses such as 100mg e/d but this will also depend on the type of gear you have. Also what weight were you when you started your first cycle?

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    dem_gains is offline Junior Member
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    Started cycle at 75kg now 85kg near end of pct. was 88-90 at peak.

    Not doing cycle #2 till sept

    Yeah just sucks how most anavar is fake so I dnno. Some
    People are even of the opinion that as high as 99%of it is fake. Thoughts on this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dem_gains View Post
    Started cycle at 75kg now 85kg near end of pct. was 88-90 at peak.

    Not doing cycle #2 till sept

    Yeah just sucks how most anavar is fake so I dnno. Some
    People are even of the opinion that as high as 99%of it is fake. Thoughts on this?
    Not necessarily fake, but under dosed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by king6 II

    Not necessarily fake, but under dosed.
    ^^^Agreed. I've come across a lot of under dosed product but none that were fake.
    Last edited by MuscleInk; 01-23-2014 at 08:42 PM.

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    What's the rest of if made up of? Just sugar? Don't wanna end up taking something like dbol

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    Quote Originally Posted by dem_gains View Post
    What's the rest of if made up of? Just sugar? Don't wanna end up taking something like dbol
    Usually some type of "filller" or non-binding ingredient. I wouldn't worry about taking var and getting dbol . If they are under dosing it they are doing it to make money, so it is unlikely they would substitute it with dbol. True dbol is cheaper however, the results are greatly different to the point where a novice cycler could tell the difference between taking dbol and var.

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