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    Too Much AI. How Long For E To Return?

    I bought Exemestane (Aromasin ) from a new source and it's quite potent compared to what I've used in the past. Sore wrists and knees, dry skin, dry hair, no libido. I stopped my AI regimen yesterday but I'm prone to water retention so I'll just spot treat. How long until my E returns to normal values?

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    Were you running this with a cycle? If not what type of regiment are you running and why?

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    Yes I am doing a fairly decent sized traditional "Mass Building" cycle. It won't let me post the name of what I'm using because of the spam filter (i have under 25 posts)

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    Quote Originally Posted by EvilDonut0
    Yes I am doing a fairly decent sized traditional "Mass Building" cycle. It won't let me post the name of what I'm using because of the spam filter (i have under 25 posts)
    You can at least discuss the cycle. What compounds you're using, length of cycle, ancillaries, etc. You don't need to discuss the product names to post the cycle.

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    I was on an E3D regimen btw

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    Quote Originally Posted by EvilDonut0
    I was on an E3D regimen btw
    What's the dose of aromasin you take E3D?

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    12 week cycle of Test E 600mg/wk and Deca 400mg/week. Kickstarted with 4 weeks of Dbol 40mg/day. 12.5 Aromasin E3D.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MuscleInk View Post
    What's the dose of aromasin you take E3D?
    ^^ This. If you crashed your E2 on aromasin ...whew!!

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    It let me that time. All I did was re-structure my reply and not use "at signs" for the dosages lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by OdinsOtherSon View Post
    ^^ This. If you crashed your E2 on aromasin...whew!!
    As in that's a VERY bad thing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by EvilDonut0 View Post
    As in that's a VERY bad thing?

    12.5 e3d....I wouldn't think that crushed your E2. If anything it may be under dosed. You need blood work to confirm
    Last edited by OdinsOtherSon; 01-25-2014 at 03:20 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EvilDonut0 View Post
    12 week cycle of Test E 600mg/wk and Deca 400mg/week. Kickstarted with 4 weeks of Dbol 40mg/day. 12.5 Aromasin E3D.
    I wasn't aware that low of a dosage could crash you but maybe the potency was off and I was over-dosing. I'm definitely experiencing low E2 sides

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    Quote Originally Posted by EvilDonut0 View Post
    I wasn't aware that low of a dosage could crash you but maybe the potency was off and I was over-dosing. I'm definitely experiencing low E2 sides
    Low e2 and high e2 have very similar symptoms. I'd say your e2 is too high, not too low IMHO. Get blood work to confirm

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    Ok I'll go ahead and do that. But I'm usually pretty in tune with my body on cycle. I usually have to fight the bloat with AI/sodium intake, blot excessive oil from my face throughout the day, shower more often and with different soap, and especially on Deca my joints feel AWESOME. Right now I feel, and look, very dry, and I'm achy everywhere. Even my hair is like a desert. Also, lack of libido and a distinct lack of emotion, and I usually have mild anxiety...that's gone too. Lol every sign points to low E
    Last edited by EvilDonut0; 01-25-2014 at 03:33 PM.

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    If anything, I'd say your E2 may be elevated, not low. Aromasin has a shorter half life than adex and its needed DAILY. The symptoms you described can be signs of elevated E. your also not running a DA so if your E2 increases and prolactin is not controlled, you could be looking at issues with prolactin AND E2.

    Yes, crashing your E2 IS a problem. All men have low normal levels of estrogen. When E2 goes out of range (too high or too low) it will cause many health problems. If the male body didn't need estrogen, we wouldn't have any to begin with.....but clearly we do because we ALL have estrogen hormones in our body long before the use of anabolics. Estrogen MUST be maintained at normal physiological ranges.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MuscleInk View Post
    If anything, I'd say your E2 may be elevated, not low. Aromasin has a shorter half life than adex and its needed DAILY. The symptoms you described can be signs of elevated E. your also not running a DA so if your E2 increases and prolactin is not controlled, you could be looking at issues with prolactin AND E2.

    Yes, crashing your E2 IS a problem. All men have low normal levels of estrogen. When E2 goes out of range (too high or too low) it will cause many health problems. If the male body didn't need estrogen, we wouldn't have any to begin with.....but clearly we do because we ALL have estrogen hormones in our body long before the use of anabolics. Estrogen MUST be maintained at normal physiological ranges.
    Hey MI, you think he may be experiencing prolactin issues here due to the deca ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by OdinsOtherSon

    Hey MI, you think he may be experiencing prolactin issues here due to the deca?
    Absolutely. If he under dosed his AI, very possible that prolactin may be elevated in the absence of a DA like cabergoline or pramipexole. Sexual dysfunction, headaches, and joint pain are common clinical symptoms associated with elevated prolactin (as well as estrogen).
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    I'm doing 12.5mg ED of aromasin and 500mg test, My estrogen for sure is not crushed.

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    You need to run labs it could be that your AI is dosed just fine and your gear is bunk or low dosed?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jim230027 View Post
    You need to run labs it could be that your AI is dosed just fine and your gear is bunk or low dosed?
    Definitely. Other than blood work we're guessing here. I'll go with elevated E2 on this one.

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    Really appreciate the info. Thanks guys!

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    Quote Originally Posted by OdinsOtherSon View Post
    Hey MI, you think he may be experiencing prolactin issues here due to the deca?
    On only 400 mg a week?

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