first cycle (been reading about roids for 2 years)

[phlith]

been reading about roids for two years, lot of friend jumped on the bike so i know a bit on the subject but i just want some external advice and opinion on what might be my first cycle

im 24years old, about to turn 25. 6'1 190-195lbs bodyfat is between 12-15% been lifting since im like 16 years old, took it more seriously for the last 2 years where i've learn about nutrition (took a legit 40lbs in 1 year natty)


so I've been thinking about doing some normal dbol test-e with adex and nolva to jump over the 200lbs mark for a long time.

but i've got a friend that will jump on an anavar only cycle soon and i though about joining him, the benefit seems nice, would lose a bit of bodyfat while getting a few lbs of lean mass. I wouldnt add test even though some people would recommend it.

so i was wondering what are de pro and the con of an anavar only cycle, i would do 50mg ed for 8 weeks and add 3g tribulus and 3g avena sativa for my dink. not sure if i would need a pct at the end though.


could you guys tell me the pro and con of both those cycle?

thx guys

[BlocRoc]

If you don't have a test base. Don't do the cycle. It's a pretty simple formulae.

Add 400mg test (cyp, prop, even the test blends) split into two shots.

For a first cycle. Why not do a test only cycle. See how you respond.

Outside of that. I'd say you're at the age where you'll still get people telling you that you don't need it. I'd agree. Yet, if you're going to go ahead with, which you probably will. Try test only, or at least have it as a base.

I know I'm being repetitive, buts it's a proven approach.

L8

[Reiid13]

I wouldnt add test even though some people would recommend it.

. not sure if i would need a pct at the end

could you guys tell me the pro and con of both those cycle?

thx guys

Anavar is a AAS , steroids shut down / suppress your natural testosterone .

To run a anavar only cycle would be insane, you must have test even if its o lt 250 a week , just so you can function as a man .

And yes AAS requires a PCT

Two years reading :/ havent learnt much bro

[Muscleduke]

been reading about roids for two years, lot of friend jumped on the bike so i know a bit on the subject but i just want some external advice and opinion on what might be my first cycle

im 24years old, about to turn 25. 6'1 190-195lbs bodyfat is between 12-15% been lifting since im like 16 years old, took it more seriously for the last 2 years where i've learn about nutrition (took a legit 40lbs in 1 year natty)


so I've been thinking about doing some normal dbol test-e with adex and nolva to jump over the 200lbs mark for a long time.

but i've got a friend that will jump on an anavar only cycle soon and i though about joining him, the benefit seems nice, would lose a bit of bodyfat while getting a few lbs of lean mass. I wouldnt add test even though some people would recommend it.

so i was wondering what are de pro and the con of an anavar only cycle, i would do 50mg ed for 8 weeks and add 3g tribulus and 3g avena sativa for my dink. not sure if i would need a pct at the end though.


could you guys tell me the pro and con of both those cycle?

thx guys

50mg per day split into 3 doses no need for AI
Nolvadex 40/40/20/20

I've done it, it's okay but nothing special. It WILL suppress you and make you feel like sh*t. Nolvadex SHOULD bounce your test back to normal. I say should because everyone's different.

Lean mass gains not much reduction in bf unless in deficit. Strength increase is the best part. If you can get test. Run it. Don't bother with trib either maybe use with pct if anything.

Tbh dude 2 years reading you should know this!

[base4291ball]

Anavar is a AAS , steroids shut down / suppress your natural testosterone . To run a anavar only cycle would be insane, you must have test even if its o lt 250 a week , just so you can function as a man . And yes AAS requires a PCT Two years reading :/ havent learnt much bro

"Haven't learned much bro"
^^^ exactly what I was thinking!!!

~Base

[tarmyg]

Studied AAS for 2 years and do not know how to put together a cycle? Is that a serious Subject line?

Thanks
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[phlith]

yeah i know about the no test no cycle thing, but i've seen many report about people using var only so i was wondering about it.

and i dont claim being a roids scientist, i know a few things but i still got alot to learn wich is why im posting here.

I want something that wont be to hard, a soft cycle with almost no repercussion on my health, would it be ok to run 250mg test-e a week along the 50mged var?

and wich pct should i run with it?

adex 1mg ed
Nolva 40/20/20/20

sound good?

[derekkpapa1]

You been a member since 2012 and that ^^^^ is the best you came up with sorry man research more then comeback to drawing board

[MuscleInk]

yeah i know about the no test no cycle thing, but i've seen many report about people using var only so i was wondering about it.

and i dont claim being a roids scientist, i know a few things but i still got alot to learn wich is why im posting here.

I want something that wont be to hard, a soft cycle with almost no repercussion on my health, would it be ok to run 250mg test-e a week along the 50mged var?

There is an entire thread on here devoted to oxandrolone and its suppressive effects and why it's generally not a good idea to run it without test. You should be able to locate it with the search function.

250mg/wk is low/weak dose as not much more than a TRT dose. Without blood work to check your panels during cycle, 250mg/wk may be pointless if all you're doing is shutting your normal testosterone down and replacing it with a synthetic.

[phlith]

There is an entire thread on here devoted to oxandrolone and its suppressive effects and why it's generally not a good idea to run it without test. You should be able to locate it with the search function.

250mg/wk is low/weak dose as not much more than a TRT dose. Without blood work to check your panels during cycle, 250mg/wk may be pointless if all you're doing is shutting your normal testosterone down and replacing it with a synthetic.

but would it still be viable? it would negate the shutdown effects nah?

[dem_gains]

yeah i know about the no test no cycle thing, but i've seen many report about people using var only so i was wondering about it.

and i dont claim being a roids scientist, i know a few things but i still got alot to learn wich is why im posting here.

I want something that wont be to hard, a soft cycle with almost no repercussion on my health, would it be ok to run 250mg test-e a week along the 50mged var?

and wich pct should i run with it?

adex 1mg ed
Nolva 40/20/20/20

sound good?

You run adex on cycle not pct.

And clomid 75/50/50/50 nolva 40/20/20/20

Oh cycle do 500mg test e a week. Run hcg and the anavar. Arimidex .25 eod

[Muscleduke]

yeah i know about the no test no cycle thing, but i've seen many report about people using var only so i was wondering about it.

and i dont claim being a roids scientist, i know a few things but i still got alot to learn wich is why im posting here.

I want something that wont be to hard, a soft cycle with almost no repercussion on my health, would it be ok to run 250mg test-e a week along the 50mged var?

and wich pct should i run with it?

adex 1mg ed
Nolva 40/20/20/20

sound good?

No such thing as a soft cycle. 250mg is no good to low. if your putting test into the equation you'll need HCG as well. Adex 0.25 EOD during cycle up if need, also add clomid into your pct if you add test. Otherwise what I recommended above.

Mate just go for a test e cycle. Var only really isn't worth it

[Tank123]

some good info from muscel duke. always good to see experienced peoples input and reassuring when different threads have similar info