First H-Drol Cycle

[xt1nkt]

Hey guys I'm gearing up (pun intended) for my from Helladrol cycle. I'm planning on starting this Friday, but I wanted to post my plan and get all comments and concerns.

First some stats:
Age: 23 (24 in April)
Weight: 165 (Been up to 180 but lost it over summer)
Bf %: ~6-7%
Height: 6'1"
Lifting Experience: 2-3 Years mostly on except this summer .

Goals for cycle: 10-20lbs.

I've been researching steroids/prohormones on and off for a year or two and just now decided it was time. I want to start with just one compound, Helladrol (H-Drol) for my first cycle.

I've also already started preloading my cycle support (for the Hawthorne berry).

Week 1: Preload cycle support
Week 2-7: Hella 75/75/75/100/100/100(or 125)
Week 2-7: Cycle Supprt
Week 2-7: Guardian Liver Detox (taken at night)

PCT (4 weeks)
Week 8-11: Clomid 100/100/50/50
Week 8-11: Erase (AI and Test)
Week 8-11: Lean Extreme (for Cortisol and Test)
Week 8-11: Forged PCT (or something similar)
Week 8-11: DAA (3g/day for Test)

I can't afford to break the bank on extra supps, especially for a mild cycle. Hcg is too expensive and I'm contemplating N2guard if it's really worth it, because it's rather expensive.

My training is following the Get Swole trainer (4 days/week) from bb.com with some extra WPT thrown in if I can recover properly. My diet is going to be 3500-4000 calories a day with a whole foods meal and then a shake every other.

I also just got blood work done for my test, estrogen, lipid, liver, etc. So that should be done in a few days so I have a good solid baseline.

I might be missing some info but that's about the gist of it. Any and all questions, comments, concerns, ideas for my cycle would be greatly appreciated so I can make this a memorable successful first cycle.

Also I know it's a prohormone and not a steroid so sorry if it is in the wrong forum

EDIT
A couple questions for you guys.
1. When and in what doses do I take hella for 100/125?
Is it 50mg morning, 50mg preworkout? And for 125 is it 75mg morning 50 preworkout?
2. Should I take guardian liver detox on top of cycle support on cycle or will it flush the PH to quickly?
3. Should I take cycle support through PCT?

[king6 II]

Prohormones are hard on the liver and harder on your HPTA. In most cases PH's are more harmful than AAS. At 6'1" 165 lbs 6 or 7% bodyfat your probably very lean. If you were at 180 over the summer, I would concentrate on getting back up there with a lean bulking diet. Also your PCT is not really a PCT, aside from the clomid. Erase does not come close to a proper AI such as aromasin or armidex. If you do decide to take something in the next year or two I would leave PH's out of your decision making process.

[derekkpapa1]

6'1 165lbs 6-7 bf wow post pics gotta see this

[xt1nkt]

Should I get forma then for an AI?

[MuscleInk]

Should I get forma then for an AI?

WTH is forma? If you mean Femara, NO.

[xt1nkt]

Forma stanzol- steroidal AI

Also how is it not a real pct? I've taken care of AI, Cortisol, and test production. Should I add a test booster and Forma Stanzol for a better AI?

[MuscleInk]

Forma stanzol- steroidal AI

Also how is it not a real pct? I've taken care of AI, Cortisol, and test production. Should I add a test booster and Forma Stanzol for a better AI?

Why are you wasting your time with lentaron? It's one of the least effective AIs and isn't even used any more by most people. It can leave up to 10% of aromatase activity unblocked.

Most test boosters are a waste of money and as useless as pro hormones. Where are you getting your information from?

[xt1nkt]

Here, ************, prohormone forum and other resources, sorry if I'm wasting your time, ill post on a different forum

I'm also using PHD as a stepping stone before I try AAS, I wanna get my feet wet before I jump in.

I also am using erase because Helladrol doesn't aromatoze, so I was using it for my own test. If those don't work then what should I use?

[king6 II]

PH's are not a stepping stone, they are a cliff. There are many members on this site that are currently on HRT because of a PH cycle they ran in their younger years. There is nothing wrong is using AAS, as long as your diet, training and body fat are in check you should look into it instead of PH. I would wait a year so that you are a little older and take that time to research AAS and forget about PH's. A simple test only cycle will give you far better results and is safer. Also the best information you will find is on this board. I have looked at other boards and have noticed they tend to give advice opposite of what it given here, especially when it comes to using PH's and oral only cycles. As far as PCT's go, check out the PCT thread. A proper cycle support system and PCT will consist of an aromatase inhibitor such as aromasin, armidex or letro. HCG, and a selective estrogen receptor modulator such as clomid and novladex. There are several OTC serms and AI's like erase however, they are not the real deal they act like serms and AI's but now where near as effective and is pointless to use seeing as you can get everything you need for a real PCT from the site sponsor.

[fit2bOld]

Please forget the PH cycle bro. Should have spent your money on chicken. Gives better long-lasting results.

[DAAS]

Please forget the PH cycle bro. Should have spent your money on chicken. Gives better long-lasting results.

I recently found a bottle of prohormones I ending up not taking a few years ago. I flushed it down the poop bowl

I think the only oral id ever take would be DBOL

[king6 II]

I recently found a bottle of prohormones I ending up not taking a few years ago. I flushed it down the poop bowl

I think the only oral id ever take would be DBOL

Oh that's real nice.....Now there are a bunch of fish out there with bitch tits and dicks that don't work.

[tdoe11]

Oh that's real nice.....Now there are a bunch of fish out there with bitch tits and dicks that don't work.

Hehe

[xt1nkt]

Well after hearing all this I would rather just switch to a test only cycle. The only problem is I don't know which sponsors are legit.

[king6 II]

Well after hearing all this I would rather just switch to a test only cycle. The only problem is I don't know which sponsors are legit.

Use caution with your post. You open yourself up to scammers. Once you become a productive member here, 100 quality posts you can PM a willing mod or vet for a source check.