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It's finishing up a cycle of cyp 500mg a week.2ndcycle. I've noticed every other shot I usually get a pretty big lump. Am I allergic to cyp or do I need a 1.5" instead of 1" pins? Not sure!!! Also the lumps go away but they get kinda big. I was wondering if I could use anti biotics to get rid of it faster as we'll.
Thanks guys
How many ML are you injecting, is the injection site painful, red or warm to the touch?
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Originally Posted by king6 II
1ml. And not painful just a tiny bit tender. It's a little red. Not warm tho
But I've had this happen multiple times and it always goes down but it usually takes 3-4 daysQuote:
Originally Posted by king6 II
Any other sides do you feel funny?
What do you mean?Quote:
Originally Posted by 4linked
I usually get nervous lol, but with my experience it has always subsidedQuote:
Originally Posted by 4linked
I usually massage my injection area after injection, but I have never had the issue you have had. Maybe a small lump here and there. What gauge needle are you using? Maybe your ramming the needle too hard.
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Originally Posted by king6 II
I think it's 25 gauge bro. Theoretically if it were serious how do you tell a doc? I've already had a scare before and went in and told him what I was taking(a big no no) and luckily my insurance didn't find out
I have antibiotics on hand too. Will that help? Also if I rub bro it makes it so much worse. One time I rubbed and it doubled in size. Irritated super badQuote:
Originally Posted by king6 II
There is that patient doctor confidentiality thing. Besides, he is more likely to get paid by the insurance company than you So I doubt he will open his mouth. If I made 6 figures a year I certainly would not. I am suspecting it may be your injection methods. If it was tainted gear or an abscess you would have other symptoms as 4linked inquired on. Keep an eye on it, if it gets worse go to the doc.Quote:
Originally Posted by cypher23
Definitely bro thanks. But I heard that confidentiality is bs? Not sure what to believe there. But what scared me last time was he wrote it down on his notepad lol. And ya idk about the method. I really think it could be bad gear. I thought I trusted the source. It was unlabeled(lazy technique) and the safety cap was already pulled off, BUT there were no pin marks on the stopper.Quote:
Originally Posted by king6 II
But could I also be allergic to certain compounds as we'll?Quote:
Originally Posted by king6 II
What was super funny/scary tho is he asked. Is that stuff illegal...-.-Quote:
Originally Posted by king6 II
op what body fat levels are you at? If your in higher body fat %. A 1.5 inch needle could def. Help. When i used a 1 inch needle and didnt get it all in the muscle. It caused a lump an a pretty significant burning feeling. Especially if i did 2-3ml. So keep this in mind. Mite be a simple fix. But you do need to keep a close eye on this to make sure not an infection.
Definitely will man. And ya I'm probably at 14%Quote:
Originally Posted by michael30
I have heard of people cutting gear with olive or veg oil and it causing you to have a bump like that . NO cap that is not a good sign ever really sketchy.
I agree with post above, sounds like you're injections aren't going deep enough into muscle, I upped my glute needle to 1.5 inch, I'd have to be at 3% bf to get rid of my black girl ass, 2in wasn't cutting it
don't listen to any of the idiots talking about it not going deep enough -___- it's deep enough. go to a doctor if the problem persists.
Isn't 500mgs per ml a bit high I have been told anything over 400 mgs per ml and it's gonna hurt
Grow up bud, no need for name calling, go hit the bb(dot)com forums if you want to be engaged in child's play...Quote:
Originally Posted by EKFitness
OP, if it's slightly red, a little raised, makes a pattern, happens regularly but goes away, it's not an infection, they don't just "come and go" what you're describing is directly in line with oil leaking out from the injection site
EK, are you there to help inject, you're so positive it's deep enough?Quote:
Originally Posted by EKFitness
Ok makes sense bro thanks. Ya it took some anti biotics too and it's going down. As usual. But is there any possibility I could be allergic to cyp too?Quote:
Originally Posted by ickythump
Absolutely...maybe get advice on an antihistamine, like benadryl, I have little advice, but that could be the problem....longer pins won't hurt in the mean time tho
under the skin is deep enough. subq works just as well as intramuscular. OP listen to a person with experience and a brother who is an endo doc.Quote:
Originally Posted by ickythump
Release times of esters, half lives of each steroid ester, are based on intramuscular injection, release from fat is different (read: sub q) also blood flow to fat cells is different and you get uneven hormone levels. Sub q also carries higher risks of developing an abscess. And how would you have any clue what expertise or knowledge I have, no one cares what your brother does pal
it all absorbs into your body, stop it with the bunk science you're reading on the interwebzQuote:
Originally Posted by ickythump
also, there are multiple threads on this site that debunk the depth myth. just get it in you guy
Listen man, it'll serve you well in the future to not assume things about people and to not be a know it all.....this isn't bro science, usp drugs all at IM only for a reason...yes trt sometimes uses subq for small doses, but ml's worth should be IM...why don't you provide a link to one of these threads instead of a pissing match?
There's a few people in here of late that can't seem to offer a sincere response without putting down others.Quote:
Originally Posted by ickythump
of late? I've been around 4 years. subq works, and just as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by MuscleInk
I was specifically referring to comments across several threads the last few days, not just this one.Quote:
Originally Posted by EKFitness
I'm aware of your membership sign up date.
I never questioned your response with respect to SQ route of administration. Please point out where I have challenged your response. My comment was in reference to tactfulness not legitimacy of the response.
I've been practicing medicine for 18 years. I'm well informed about appropriate and possible ROA for medical applications, thank you all the same. :)
MI, what's your take for OP's sake, as i slightly eluded I've seen sub q for trt or small dosages but that's mostly it for large (500 and up) steroid doses, and personally every time I don't get deep enough I get the same irritation OP described...can you shed any light on all this?
SubQ injections are more ideal for water soluble compounds or low doses. Vascularity is greater in muscle tissue, thereby facilitating absorption and distribution of a drug. SQ injections are practical with low doses (25-75mg) but can lead to slower absorption and more pain if a drug is suspended in oil, doses are highly concentrated, and/or injected volumes are high.Quote:
Originally Posted by ickythump
That doesn't mean a steroid has to be injected IM, rather, absorption, distribution, and pain are less of an issue. Deeper IM injections don't guarantee a pain free experience but in general are superior to SQ within the conditions I referenced.
Injection site pain and irritation can be caused by so many factors that its difficult to isolate causality. I've listed risk factors on here before. A secondary issue is whether pain represents an infection or local trauma. Swelling, pain, redness, and warmth in an injection area can just as easily be local irritation and slow absorption as it could be the onset of an infection. Typically when an infection is seen, pain increases, edema/swelling increases, and secondary constitutional symptoms are reported (fever, nausea, chills, loss of appetite, general malaise).
Yea I had local swelling in delt, afraid to push in to far I assumed, it left like a leak pattern if you will, redness and painful to touch, and it created a trail in relation to laying on my side, as tho with gravity...I fixed that, but every other injection in glutes was painful and seemed to do the same thing until I got a longer needle so I thought op could try that....thank you for your input MI, much respect good sir
No problem. Happy to provide feedback where I can.Quote:
Originally Posted by ickythump