First cycle. Need advice!

**Ruff** · 02-04-2014, 02:14 PM

Hey guys!

I'm thinking about ordering Anavar 50ct 50mg oral tabs from Kab labs.

PCT I would take a mix from the same company with ~25mg Anavar, ~50mg Clomid, and ~25 Nolva.

How does this sound and should I take a natty t-boost while on the cycle?

Any questions let me know

**MuscleInk** · 02-04-2014, 02:24 PM

Suppressing your endocrine system at 22 years old is a bad idea.

The young and Steroids

Anavar cycles should be run with testosterone , an AI, HCG , and a PCT.

**redz** · 02-04-2014, 02:37 PM

Test only would be a much better first cycle.

**Ruff** · 02-04-2014, 02:41 PM

I meant first cycle considering stronger than test boosters. Hmmm, I have run 2 cycles of DAA and have Lecheek Mass HGH on the way to help me sleep and raise IGF. Also, stacking that with protein and Green Mag.

Would would be the strongest thing for a 22 year old? Just natty test?

**Ruff** · 02-04-2014, 02:45 PM

Also, they say Anavar is the safest, but is that just because it doesn't aromatise? It would still throw off a younger persons hormone production with leaning off and proper pct?

**MuscleInk** · 02-04-2014, 02:48 PM

Originally Posted by Ruff

Also, they say Anavar is the safest, but is that just because it doesn't aromatise? It would still throw off a younger persons hormone production with leaning off and proper pct?

Any exogenous steroid will suppress/shut down your natural production. Once that happens, full recovery is not a guarantee. That is why we advise men under 25 to hold off for a few years.

**Ruff** · 02-05-2014, 10:20 AM

I assume a PH would do the same thing then? So do you think a natty test is the best right now?

**fit2bOld** · 02-05-2014, 11:17 AM

Do not put that crap in your body.
How bout you spend as much time in the kitchen and the gym as you do tiring to figure out what shortcuts will make you big.
That OTC junk is just a waste of your money and anything you gain wi quickly be lost when you stop using it. Muscle built with hard work at the gym along with proper nutrition will last a lifetime.

**MuscleInk** · 02-05-2014, 12:02 PM

Originally Posted by Ruff

I assume a PH would do the same thing then? So do you think a natty test is the best right now?

PHs are hepatotoxic (toxic to your liver) and will suppress your natural testosterone production.

The majority of test boosters are garbage and nothing more than marketing scams (just like "mass builder" protein powder). Save your money.

Lean muscle mass at your age can be achieved by eating more than your TDEE and training hard. Nutrition is absolutely the most important criteria for gaining muscle or losing body fat. Steroids won't help you achieve your goals if you aren't eating well above or below your TDEE to gain size or reduce fat, respectively.

As Fit2 suggests, go to the nutrition subforum here and develop an appropriate nutrition plan. Follow that for a few years and (1) you'll achieve the results you desire and (2) when you are ready for steroids you will have mastered the fundamentals (nutrition and training) for growing bigger or cutting bf.

**Test Rage** · 02-05-2014, 12:24 PM

These guys are right. Eat.

But... I do know the temptation you feel, So I will not just sit here and tell you not to cycle. I know alot of young guys that took the plunge into AAS at a young age. Should they have?? Probably not.. But are they at much more risk than say a 25 year old? It depends on their level of maturity which can only really be quantified by blood work. I am also one of these young guys that started young.

Chances are you will do it anyways. So if you are going to do it.. Do it right. Get bloodwork before and have it assess by some of the vets on here to make sure you are safe to precede and know what to watch for.

Do a test only cycle. Anavar only is a waste unless you are a chick. 400mgs test a week for 8-12 weeks. HCG while on at 500iu per week. An AI, and a solid PCT. Dont use prohormones.

If you want to be able to keep the 15lbs from your first test cycle then prove to yourself you can gain without roids. That way you know your diet and training are what they need to be. Gear can be a crutch and when you get off you fall on your face unless you have the proper lifestyle to support your new physic.

**MuscleInk** · 02-05-2014, 01:58 PM

Originally Posted by Test Rage

These guys are right. Eat.

But... I do know the temptation you feel, So I will not just sit here and tell you not to cycle. I know alot of young guys that took the plunge into AAS at a young age. Should they have?? Probably not.. But are they at much more risk than say a 25 year old? It depends on their level of maturity which can only really be quantified by blood work. I am also one of these young guys that started young.

Chances are you will do it anyways. So if you are going to do it.. Do it right. Get bloodwork before and have it assess by some of the vets on here to make sure you are safe to precede and know what to watch for.

Do a test only cycle. Anavar only is a waste unless you are a chick. 400mgs test a week for 8-12 weeks. HCG while on at 500 mgs per week. An AI, and a solid PCT. Dont use prohormones.

If you want to be able to keep the 15lbs from your first test cycle then prove to yourself you can gain without roids. That way you know your diet and training are what they need to be. Gear can be a crutch and when you get off you fall on your face unless you have the proper lifestyle to support your new physic.

^^^Perhaps HCG @ 500iu per week?