test tren hgh cyle

[VegasBody]

i was asking a pro in my gym what would be a good cycle
this is what he come up with
1-6 weeks
400 test cyp
200 tren
7-12 weeks
200 test prop
200 masteron
200 stanazol
and 1-12
2 iu hgh
what do you guys think

[derekkpapa1]

stats
This your first cycle??
And what's the guy a pro at??

[VegasBody]

2nd cycle 185lb 5.11 41yrsold
i don't want to say name but he's a bodybuilder

[fit2bOld]

I would not have offered that as cycle, test is all you need plus the ancillaries.

[MuscleInk]

I would not have offered that as cycle, test is all you need plus the ancillaries.

^^^Agreed. Pro or no pro that's unnecessary for recreational use especially for a second cycle.

[redz]

That cycle is terribly put together for anyone. Don't take any more advice from him.

[VegasBody]

I would not have offered that as cycle, test is all you need plus the ancillaries.
what do you mean about``ancillaries``

[CompetetiveEater]

What fit means is run your type of test plus your ai, hcg, and include a proper pct - your ancilliaries

[VegasBody]

I have been taking 1/2 arimidex eod no hcg I'm on test by dr anyway my test is 218 without shots

[CompetetiveEater]

Okay my apologies I didn't realize you are on trt. What exactly are your goals? I don't have experience with some of those compounds but unless you're going into a comp, I don't see the need for mast or Stan but that's my opinion.

What have you cycled with before?

[marcus300]

You shouldn't be using tren on your 2nd cycle

[VegasBody]

I'm a hard gainer unfortunately but I can work out 8 months and that's all I do then I have to work 3 months where I'm working 20hrs a day with no day off so basically I'm getting ready for 8 months so I can handle that 3
But in that 3 I lose almost what I gain in 8
So I'm trying to bulk up the first 3-5 moths and get as lean as possible the other 3 I don't get fat ANYWHERE except my belly
I have been doing it for years I wanted to try something new

[MuscleInk]

I'm a hard gainer unfortunately but I can work out 8 months and that's all I do then I have to work 3 months where I'm working 20hrs a day with no day off so basically I'm getting ready for 8 months so I can handle that 3
But in that 3 I lose almost what I gain in 8
So I'm trying to bulk up the first 3-5 moths and get as lean as possible the other 3 I don't get fat ANYWHERE except my belly
I have been doing it for years I wanted to try something new

Failure to gain generally means failure to eat, not a lack of steroids. What's your TDEE and how many calories every day do you eat above your TDEE?

[VegasBody]

I have been working out with a trainer for 2 years
I also have a guy cook my food I eat real clean 6-7 meals a day except those 3 months I eat really bad no time
Here is my tdee

[marcus300]

I'm a hard gainer unfortunately but I can work out 8 months and that's all I do then I have to work 3 months where I'm working 20hrs a day with no day off so basically I'm getting ready for 8 months so I can handle that 3
But in that 3 I lose almost what I gain in 8
So I'm trying to bulk up the first 3-5 moths and get as lean as possible the other 3 I don't get fat ANYWHERE except my belly
I have been doing it for years I wanted to try something new

You definitely shouldn't be running tren.
Your going 3 steps forward and 4 back its pointless running gear at all. Your not even maintaining a solid diet when you don't train for 3 months.

Tren is an advanced compound its not for a 2 nd cycle and also if you only train for 8 months. I really wouldn't shut myself down for zero results over 12 months and that's why your a hard gainer.

[MuscleInk]

I have been working out with a trainer for 2 years
I also have a guy cook my food I eat real clean 6-7 meals a day except those 3 months I eat really bad no time
Here is my tdee

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No, that's NOT your TDEE and there is no way a 5'11 185lb male is going to gain lean mass eating 1800 calories a day.

[VegasBody]

Ok any suggestion?
I'm unable to work out in that three months
With 20 hr workload I'm barely alive
And the healthy food just does not properly fuel my body
After and hr I feel hungry
If I eat a pizza or some other junk I'm good for 4-5 hrs sometimes 8-10 all depends if I get a chance to eat

[VegasBody]

And tdee is around 1700 but it's impossible to calculate accurately on these websites all showes different

[itsjayman02]

And tdee is around 1700 but it's impossible to calculate accurately on these websites all showes different

Use this one below

http://iifym.com/iifym-calculator/

[VegasBody]

Thank You it was a big help
So my tdee is 2533 and bmr 1768

[itsjayman02]

Thank You it was a big help
So my tdee is 2533 and bmr 1768

So you need to eat 800 more calories than before just to maintain

1300 more to bulk!!

[VegasBody]

So i should have got skinny on it but i did not i bulked up to 190
Then came my three months of work with pizza and junk food
And i got my belly back and lost 10lb

[itsjayman02]

So i should have got skinny on it but i did not i bulked up to 190
Then came my three months of work with pizza and junk food
And i got my belly back and lost 10lb

I am not counting all your calorific intake and my advice is based purely on the information you provide!!

You are making errors and through trial and error and some advice you should be back on track.

[CompetetiveEater]

Op I can assure you if you eat better while working your long days, you'll feel better
. The reason when you eat healthy and feel hungry an hour later is because your body is going to metabolize and digest that better than pizza and chips, and you're probably not eating enough

[CompetetiveEater]

Check out the nutrition section, there's more than enough recipes and tips. If time is your issue with work, then just advance your shakes, add a balance of macros to them. As jay already mentioned about your tdee, adjust and give it a try

[VegasBody]

Ok I'll try thanx for the advise
Now this whole tread started with a question on a cycle of test tren hgh
If I'm on trt how should I go about adding an other compound to my already
1cc...200mg test a week
Should I double my test for 12-16 weeks add dbol or tran(aldo they are advising against tran)and then go back to the normal 1cc a week?
Thanx

[CompetetiveEater]

As some of the vets have mentioned about tren you should probably listen, some people can handle it and some can't.

If you're wanting to add dbol in, weeks 1-4 at 30-50mg, adjust your adex if need be but you're already running .5 if I recall you stating.

You could increase your test to 2 pins a week at 200-250mg each for 12 weeks then back to trt protocol. Get more imput on it, don't just take my opinion, but I wouldn't add in tren and with hgh you need to run it for a very long time if it's actual hgh.

[lilith-12]

Pure Labs Gear Legit anyone???

[VegasBody]

Thanx man

[hankdiesel]

That cycle is terribly put together for anyone. Don't take any more advice from him.

But he's a "pro"............

[XxAndreaxX]

Ehm, you are a hardgainer And use only 200mg test for bulking... Tren And hgh wont make you any bigger. Not even mention winstrol... But you are the pro man... Anyways, I'd consider go high on test, to bulk first. Hgh, tren And whatever, its up to you. You are already lean by genetics...