first cycle cellulitis?

[jtheshowstoppper]

Started my first cycle of test e and decca doing 1ml of each was going good got to week 4 after the injection the injection site got hard and hot to the touch when and got antibiotics took care of it then went back to my cycle same thing again not sure why everything is sterile. gear went bad?

[austinite]

How long was it inflamed before it went down?

[jtheshowstoppper]

id say 1.5 weeks but i gave it longer before i started up again

[austinite]

Yeah that sounds like an infection. See how strong your arm is. Let me know how far you're able to throw that gear down the river.

[jtheshowstoppper]

did it just go bad or is my body rejecting it now

[austinite]

Gear is bad, likely. I don't know what "My body rejecting it" means.

[jtheshowstoppper]

thank you for the fast response

[austinite]

Sure thing. Sorry you're having issues but glad to see you're expressing concern.

[jtheshowstoppper]

yeah was going good for the first few weeks helps alot with family in the medical field

[ChestNBack]

What lab were you using?

[MuscleInk]

I posted this in another thread. Copying and pasting here to save the re-type.

I've mentioned numerous times on here, as have others, that anabolics have an IMMUNOSUPPRESSIVE effect. That means your immune system, which keeps us HEALTHY, may be somewhat suppressed during a cycle. This in part accounts for increased muscle and joint pain, more frequent colds or flu viruses among steroid users, AND increases the risk of an infection with injectable compounds.

I would argue that many (not all) cases of severe PIP is either localized trauma or (more likely) cellulitis. Cellulitis is a diffuse or local infection under the skin caused by Group A Streptococcus and Staphylococcus bacteria, which normally cause no infection while on the skin's outer surface but become problematic once pushed into the fascia from needle insertion. In rare but severe cases, StrepA or StaphA pushed to the lower fascia can cause necrotizing fasciitis - or "flesh eating disease". I know many people will say they take extensive precautions when injecting (alcohol to swab the skin, sterile needles, etc.) but is takes very little StaphA or StrepA to cause an infection. Couple this with an immune system that is weakened, and your recovery time is much longer, or, if too severe, antibiotics are required to help sequester the bacteria and neutralize it.

The is one of the many risks seldom discussed with new users. Taking injections isn't the worst experience in the world, but users must appreciate the risk for infection - no matter how small or great the risk.

[derekkpapa1]

Muscle ink I see you know a lot about infection and cellulitis, if I every get one or other and decide to self diagnose what antibiotic would be recommended ?? By what I read keflex. Sorry op for jumping In

[MuscleInk]

Muscle ink I see you know a lot about infection and cellulitis, if I every get one or other and decide to self diagnose what antibiotic would be recommended ?? By what I read keflex. Sorry op for jumping In

Yes sir. Had many of my own and treated more than I can remember. The popular first line therapy for most skin based infections is Cephalexin, a broad spectrum antibiotic that disables the peptidoglycan layer of bacteria causing degradation and destruction of bacteria. It is also an ideal choice for people who have known (or unknown) hypersensitivities to penicillins. Common problems with Cephalexin however include elevated liver enzymes (more than 90% of the drug survives first pass liver metabolism) nausea, dyspepsia, and drying out of connective tissue (which can be an issue among recreational and professional body builders).

I personally prefer clindamycin because its more aggressive by attacking bacterial RNA and directly (not passively) kills the bacteria, BUT clindamycin is also harsh on the GI, will attack healthy stomach flora and can lead to serious GI issues including severe (potentially life threatening) diarrhea, dehydration, and electrolyte imbalances.

[derekkpapa1]

thanks man

[MuscleInk]

thanks man

No problem brother.

[Bonaparte]

MI, how do those 2 stack up against the Levofloxacin that I always keep on hand?

[MuscleInk]

MI, how do those 2 stack up against the Levofloxacin that I always keep on hand?

Levaquin is effective. I generally avoid using it in patients over 45 because the chief complaint is tendinitis and arthritic pain (arthralgia). It causes a lot less GI issues and comes in IV and oral formulations so I've used the IV form a few times for aggressive infection inpatients (mostly bronchial).

Clindamycin is more effective at a lower dose but some people really don't tolerate it well. In anyone with pre-existing gastrointestinal issues, I avoid it and go with Cephalexin, Levaquin, or a few others. My IV antibiotic of choice is Invanz.

[MODO]

The popular first line therapy for most skin based infections is Cephalexin

I personally prefer clindamycin because its more aggressive

holy C. diff batman!

[MuscleInk]

holy C. diff batman!

Yes, it can be a serious problem. That's why initial doses should be low. I've had optimal responses with clindamycin and bactrim but a handful of patients do present with GI syndromes and are immediately switched. That's why I do a ful work up and Hx with the patient to assess and prior GI issues that may contraindicate the use of clindamycin.

[jtheshowstoppper]

Muscle ink a friend of the family dr said bottle could have got contaminated inside. Really let down by the whole situation

[MuscleInk]

Muscle ink a friend of the family dr said bottle could have got contaminated inside. Really let down by the whole situation

Very possible. Many guys here autoclave/pressure cook their gear before use to destroy pathogens to minimize infection risks.

[jtheshowstoppper]

Can that still be done to what i have?

[jtheshowstoppper]

Or new sterile vials with a filter

[MODO]

Or new sterile vials with a filter

uhm... filter?

[lovbyts]

uhm... filter?

Yeah he is talking about a whatman 0.2um pore filter

[jtheshowstoppper]

So can my stuff be saved or not worth the trouble

[jtheshowstoppper]

Care to chime in again muscle ink

[MuscleInk]

Care to chime in again muscle ink

How much is left over? Worth filtering? Personally I would pressure cook over filtering.

[jtheshowstoppper]

About 6 weeks left how long do I pressure cook it for never used one before lol

[MODO]

Yeah he is talking about a whatman 0.2um pore filter

very good! I'll have to educate myself on this

[xjay1234]

Could just be the way your body reacted temporarily

[need2tellmesomething]

So you dont have anything to tell me showstoppper?

[need2tellmesomething]

Know your on here

[Bonaparte]

Know your on here

So you dont have anything to tell me showstoppper?

Please leave forever. Nobody has any idea what you're on about.

[ChestNBack]

showstoppa what lab were you using