kick starting long esters with short

[bobdurden]

I'm not really partial to orals and was wondering if kick starting a ten week test E cycle with test prop would be wise. I was thinking weeks 1-10 running test e and weeks 1-4 test prop eod. Any reason not to back load the cycle in weeks 11 and 12 with prop too?

Thoughts?

[newguy92]

Yeah you could do that. You can also backload but you'd have to start your pct sooner

[PBJtime]

Question to ; Newguy , I was going to run the same Test E with Anavar for a cut and was curious to adding prop to maybe speed things up for 1-4 weeks and drop the prop and stay with Test E and Var for 9-10 weeks .. Your thoughts

[lucabratzi]

Question to ; Newguy , I was going to run the same Test E with Anavar for a cut and was curious to adding prop to maybe speed things up for 1-4 weeks and drop the prop and stay with Test E and Var for 9-10 weeks .. Your thoughts

Start ur own thread and you'll get a response.

To the op, what is ur reasoning behind wanting to back load it if u only want to run 10 week w a front load?

[bobdurden]

Start ur own thread and you'll get a response.

To the op, what is ur reasoning behind wanting to back load it if u only want to run 10 week w a front load?

The idea is to keep test levels elevated during the two weeks the test e is tapering off, which in effect would actually make this a 12 week cycle. I figure if I'm going to be shut down from the gate then I might as well make use of the beginning and end of the cycle while the long esters are building or tapering off. Do you think this is a good idea or not?

[lucabratzi]

To be honest I would just front load it instead of back loading it. That way the prop kicks in around week 2 and you'll have 8 weeks of growth. If you back loaded it you'd wait the 4-5 weeks for test e to kick in then have the same 8 weeks of growth after back loading. Except you'd be shut down for a little longer.

Does that make sense?

[bobdurden]

Thanks for the response. Im leaning towards just frontloading. Do you think weeks 1-4 with 100mg of prop eod would do the job?

[Capebuffalo]

Any reason to not run a prop only cycle?

[newguy92]

Any reason to not run a prop only cycle?

probably just a lot of pinning. Once your levels are up is rather just pin twice a week instead of 3-4

[lucabratzi]

Thanks for the response. Im leaning towards just frontloading. Do you think weeks 1-4 with 100mg of prop eod would do the job?

What are you running test e at?

[bobdurden]

Any reason to not run a prop only cycle?

I'm a pretty busy guy and I think the pinning frequency would start to grind on me.

[bobdurden]

What are you running test e at?

250mg twice per week

Would it make sense to taper off the prop as my levels build from the Test E?
Example
Week 1 100mg EOD
Week 2 100mg EOD
Week 3 75mg EOD
Week 4 50 mg EOD

Thanks again for the help, guys!

[bobdurden]

Sorry double post

[kelkel]

The idea is to keep test levels elevated during the two weeks the test e is tapering off, which in effect would actually make this a 12 week cycle. I figure if I'm going to be shut down from the gate then I might as well make use of the beginning and end of the cycle while the long esters are building or tapering off. Do you think this is a good idea or not?

Seriously over-thinking this. Just run your Test E for 12-14 weeks and be happy.

[bobdurden]

Seriously over-thinking this. Just run your Test E for 12-14 weeks and be happy.

Damn, Kekel way to sh*t on my parade

However, you're probably right on that. I was just looking to mix things up a bit as all i've ever ran were basic Test E cycles. If it aint broke dont fix it, right?

[kelkel]

Damn, Kekel way to sh*t on my parade

However, you're probably right on that. I was just looking to mix things up a bit as all i've ever ran were basic Test E cycles. If it aint broke dont fix it, right?

Not trying to do that as you know. In bold pretty much sums it up. Up your dose slightly if need be. Be sure you have all ancillaries and hcg during cycle. Way too many guys run far more advanced cycles than they need to quite honestly. Make sure nutrition and training are on point. Too many seem to only train hard and eat right when "on cycle" then wonder why the lose what they gained. When you build new tissue you have to continue feeding it. If not, it's gone.

[bobdurden]

Not trying to do that as you know. In bold pretty much sums it up. Up your dose slightly if need be. Be sure you have all ancillaries and hcg during cycle. Way too many guys run far more advanced cycles than they need to quite honestly. Make sure nutrition and training are on point. Too many seem to only train hard and eat right when "on cycle" then wonder why the lose what they gained. When you build new tissue you have to continue feeding it. If not, it's gone.

Thanks, kelkel and everybody else who chipped in. This board never lets me down. Anybody care to glance over the cycle?

Weeks 1-12 500mg Test E
Weeks 1-14 aromasin 12.5mg ED (will adjust if needed)
Weeks 1-14 HCG 250iu twice/week
Weeks 1-forever 5mg cialis

PCT starting 14 days after last shot of Test E
Clomid 75/50/25/25
Nolva 40/40/20/20

Bloods are scheduled prior, five weeks in and five weeks after PCT.

Diet is dialed in @ 3600cals

Thanks again!

[SEOINAGE]

Looks like you got a good answer and you are underway. One option is just front loading with test E however, thought I would throw that out there. Personally I have some weird ideas for front loading if you are using your own test currently. But honestly I just wanted to throw this out there even though I think the plain 12 week cycle will work just great.