Alternative pct to clomid for deca

[dougal]

Hi guys quick history got five cycles under my belt, test only, test deca, dbol test tren, test mast Winnie and then a test only.

30 years old 17.5st 10%bf 6ft4

So my next cycle will be 400 deca and 750 test e for14 weeks will be stopping deca after 12 weeks I'll be running 500ui of hcg a week throughout with arimidex and prami both at 0.5mg e3d.

So my question to you is for pct I hate clomid it seems to make my vision go all funny I've read that nolva should not be used with 19nor is there any alternative?

Thanks guys

[Back In Black]

What's your normal clomid dose that causes the issue? You can always take it at bedtime anyway

[dougal]

What's your normal clomid dose that causes the issue? You can always take it at bedtime anyway

Well 200mg first day the 100mg for the first week the 50mg for a further 3 weeks and I do take it at night but I believe because of its half life it's still effecting me during the day so doesn't help me there's gotta be an alternative if not maybe if I drop the deca 4weeks before the test surely I'd be alright to do nolva?

Cheers

[kronik420]

Nolva 40/20/20/20
Torem 120/60/60/60

[Back In Black]

Nolva 40/20/20/20
Torem 120/60/60/60

This. Or run your clomid instead of torem at 75/50/50/50

[wicked442]

Your clomid dose is way too high. I dont know who started this ultra high dose protocal. 75/50/50/25 is just fine.

[derekkpapa1]

Well 200mg first day the 100mg for the first week the 50mg for a further 3 weeks and I do take it at night but I believe because of its half life it's still effecting me during the day so doesn't help me there's gotta be an alternative if not maybe if I drop the deca 4weeks before the test surely I'd be alright to do nolva?

Cheers

Wow. 75mg messes me up could not imagine 100 or even 200mg I run nolva 40/40/20/20 and clomid last time at 50/50/25/25 and recovered fine (I am unfortunately unable to get bw without doctor in my state) .

[kelkel]

Simply run the clomid at a lower dose and extend pct by a couple weeks. Seems to be more effective when dealing with 19 Nor's anyway.

[dougal]

Simply run the clomid at a lower dose and extend pct by a couple weeks. Seems to be more effective when dealing with 19 Nor's anyway.

Ok guys thanks a lot ill give it ago