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    Need some help from the experts out there

    Alright guys I need some help!
    Just picked up a stack of Sustanon and Deca with HCG for PCT.
    I’m 27, 185lbs, 6ft, and lift 5-6 days per week.
    Looking to run the cycle for about 12 weeks but unsure when to start the HCG. The person I got it from said that the HCG was for PCT but everything I’ve read says that it should be taken during the cycle to keep your body producing testosterone naturally. I ran a similar cycle about a year ago but I don’t remember exactly what dosage I was taking. I know I was taking 200mg deca per week but I can’t remember how much Sust. I was happy with the results; gained 25lbs and kept about 15 of it. Also at one point I was only 180lbs and benching 375. My nuts shrank something fierce and my nipples got sensitive but no gynecomastia to date. I have a girlfriend now though so I’d like to avoid that as much as possible.
    My question really is what dosage should I be taking and I’m looking for a killer PCT plan. Also is there anyway I can get this down to 2 injections per week? I was thinking 200mg Deca with half the Sust dose mixed in and then another shot of Sust half way through the week. I know you should ideally take the Sust OED but I’d like to get away from that if possible.
    I was also planning to run the sust for 2 weeks after I finish the deca (week 13-14) but am unsure when I need to start the PCT.
    Also this PCT regimen I listed below seems pretty popular. Open to suggestions on this though. A little concerned as to where to find this stuff.. is the stuff online for real or total bullshit?

    Day 1: 300mg of Clomid + 20mg of Nolva + .25mg of Arimidex
    Day 2-7: 100mg of Clomid + 20mg of Nolva + .25mg of Arimidex
    Days 8-28: 50mg of Clomid + 20mg of Nolva + .25mg of Arimidex

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zone_of_Danger
    Alright guys I need some help!
    Just picked up a stack of Sustanon and Deca with HCG for PCT.
    I’m 27, 185lbs, 6ft, and lift 5-6 days per week.
    Looking to run the cycle for about 12 weeks but unsure when to start the HCG. The person I got it from said that the HCG was for PCT but everything I’ve read says that it should be taken during the cycle to keep your body producing testosterone naturally. I ran a similar cycle about a year ago but I don’t remember exactly what dosage I was taking. I know I was taking 200mg deca per week but I can’t remember how much Sust. I was happy with the results; gained 25lbs and kept about 15 of it. Also at one point I was only 180lbs and benching 375. My nuts shrank something fierce and my nipples got sensitive but no gynecomastia to date. I have a girlfriend now though so I’d like to avoid that as much as possible.
    My question really is what dosage should I be taking and I’m looking for a killer PCT plan. Also is there anyway I can get this down to 2 injections per week? I was thinking 200mg Deca with half the Sust dose mixed in and then another shot of Sust half way through the week. I know you should ideally take the Sust OED but I’d like to get away from that if possible.
    I was also planning to run the sust for 2 weeks after I finish the deca (week 13-14) but am unsure when I need to start the PCT.
    Also this PCT regimen I listed below seems pretty popular. Open to suggestions on this though. A little concerned as to where to find this stuff.. is the stuff online for real or total bullshit?

    Day 1: 300mg of Clomid + 20mg of Nolva + .25mg of Arimidex
    Day 2-7: 100mg of Clomid + 20mg of Nolva + .25mg of Arimidex
    Days 8-28: 50mg of Clomid + 20mg of Nolva + .25mg of Arimidex
    This is incorrect on many levels.

    Sust and deca can be injected at once (if you prefer) 2x/wk.

    HCG on cycle (not PCT). Start no later than your third week. Most start right away but by third week of cycle at very latest (earlier for shorter esters)

    AI is used during cycle to prevent aromatization. Use it during PCT and you may suppress testicular function. Run AI to start of PCT then stop.

    Are you running any dopamine agonist or chancing AI alone to be effective?

    You don't need 300mg of clomid. PCT you have two (more popular) options.

    Clomid 100/75/75/75
    Nolva 40/20/20/20/20

    OR

    Clomid 75/50/50/50
    Nolva 40/20/20/20

    Remember to keep calories 500-800 above TDEE daily as a guide to increasing LBM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MuscleInk View Post
    This is incorrect on many levels.

    Sust and deca can be injected at once (if you prefer) 2x/wk.

    HCG on cycle (not PCT). Start no later than your third week. Most start right away but by third week of cycle at very latest (earlier for shorter esters)

    AI is used during cycle to prevent aromatization. Use it during PCT and you may suppress testicular function. Run AI to start of PCT then stop.

    Are you running any dopamine agonist or chancing AI alone to be effective?

    You don't need 300mg of clomid. PCT you have two (more popular) options.

    Clomid 100/75/75/75
    Nolva 40/20/20/20/20

    OR

    Clomid 75/50/50/50
    Nolva 40/20/20/20

    Remember to keep calories 500-800 above TDEE daily as a guide to increasing LBM.
    ^^^^^ what he said.

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    Do some research, what u got there is a mess of crap

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