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    Failed Injecting myself big time . Plz help!

    I drew test E from the vial , 1 ml. Removed air.

    I put the 1.5" needle in my quad . I tried to pull the plunger back to aspirate , it didn't! Tried to push to inject ,it was also stuck!

    I removed the syringe from my quad , to find lots of blood coming out. So I hit a vein? Glad I didnt inject.

    Second atempt , I injected the needle , pulled back to aspirate , found air in the syringe ,or what I thought. I chickened out and I pulled the syringe out.

    3rd attempt , injected and aspirated. I tried to push the plunger but it was toooo heavy. I was pissed , removed the syringe and throw it full of 1 ml test in the trash

    I really hate this process. I can't do it at all. I watched dozens of videos. Don't know why the plunger is so heavy. It was 23G btw.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CoolStroybro View Post
    I drew test E from the vial , 1 ml. Removed air.

    I put the 1.5" needle in my quad . I tried to pull the plunger back to aspirate , it didn't! Tried to push to inject ,it was also stuck!

    I removed the syringe from my quad , to find lots of blood coming out. So I hit a vein? Glad I didnt inject.

    Second atempt , I injected the needle , pulled back to aspirate , found air in the syringe ,or what I thought. I chickened out and I pulled the syringe out.

    3rd attempt , injected and aspirated. I tried to push the plunger but it was toooo heavy. I was pissed , removed the syringe and throw it full of 1 ml test in the trash

    I really hate this process. I can't do it at all. I watched dozens of videos. Don't know why the plunger is so heavy. It was 23G btw.
    Sounds like this life style isn't for you. Is there a local chess club you could join?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AshopRep View Post
    Sounds like this life style isn't for you. Is there a local chess club you could join?
    I play it online.

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    And wrong injection can cause death. What is hardcore in death ? Am I ***** to fear killing myself with a syringe?

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    bro aas isn't for you...and you would have to inject a shit load of air to kill yourself...that being said if you are so nerved up to accomplish a simple injection then your not ready and your sub conscience is trying to tell you this in my opinion...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ghettoboyd View Post
    bro aas isn't for you...and you would have to inject a shit load of air to kill yourself...that being said if you are so nerved up to accomplish a simple injection then your not ready and your sub conscience is trying to tell you this in my opinion...
    AAS is not for me ? I am already in week 2 of Test E cycle . So should I quit and start PCT because I failed at pinning ? I posted here expecting help , not expecting people tell me to quit and start PCT. But thx anyways , I guess I will keep watching injection videos

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    Quote Originally Posted by CoolStroybro

    AAS is not for me ? I am already in week 2 of Test E cycle . So should I quit and start PCT because I failed at pinning ? I posted here expecting help , not expecting people tell me to quit and start PCT. But thx anyways , I guess I will keep watching injection videos

    How do you want our help? Do you want one of us to do the injections for you? If you can't inject yourself. Especially after the third attempt. AAS really isn't for you. You didn't ask a question. Just stated that you couldn't inject yourself after the third attempt

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    Cool,
    Try your delts with a 25. 5/8 inch pin, doesn't get any easier than that IMO. After that move to a 1 inch and a 23 if you want it to travel a little quicker? I did the 5/8 25 for several weeks when I first started with delts to get comfortable, now second nature

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    it seems you have no idea what you are doing...if you aspirate and air goes into the syringe that is what you are looking for, that gives you the green light to inject...if you where truly in a vein the barrel of the pin would start to fill up with very little pull on the plunger...so im thinking that your so sketched out by this process or you don't understand what you are looking for when you do that maybe this isn't for you...I wasn't trying to be jerk just giving my opinion...

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    Quote Originally Posted by pitweiler View Post
    How do you want our help? Do you want one of us to do the injections for you? If you can't inject yourself. Especially after the third attempt. AAS really isn't for you. You didn't ask a question. Just stated that you couldn't inject yourself after the third attempt
    The first pin ever I got blood gushing out. Is it my fault ? I did my research about injection. Did it on my upper outer quad (Vastus Midialis). The three attempts were at the same setting. Not 3 different days. I already took 5 shots so far in my glutes by pharmacists.

    Quote Originally Posted by ghettoboyd View Post
    it seems you have no idea what you are doing...if you aspirate and air goes into the syringe that is what you are looking for, that gives you the green light to inject...if you where truly in a vein the barrel of the pin would start to fill up with very little pull on the plunger...so im thinking that your so sketched out by this process or you don't understand what you are looking for when you do that maybe this isn't for you...I wasn't trying to be jerk just giving my opinion...
    Thx ,good info.

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    First of all, no it is not your fault that you may have hit a vein that you cant see deep in your body. It is simply something that happens sometimes. Second, the reason you want to see bubbles "or air" in the syringe when you aspirate is because liquids do not compress easily and air does. In turn, when you pull back the plunger while the needle is in your body, the tip of the needle is either in a vein or in muscle. If it is in a vein, it is like you are taking blood and the pressure from the aspirating will draw some blood into the shot; which is visible. But, if it is properly in the muscle, when you pull back, the needle doesnt suck up your muscle. It sort of seals the end of the needle when you aspirate. Because the liquid "or steroids" in the shot does not expand or compress, the air in the syringe does. So the air is actually expanding and turns into larger bubbles that are visible and when you stop applying pressure the bubbles will get smaller again and dissapear. This is why you want to see bubbles and you dont want to see blood. The bubbles that expand let you know you are in muscle and not in a vein. Good luck.

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    It takes some getting used to, I actually passed out on my feet while giving myself my 4th shot. There were times early in my 1st cycle I was asking myself what the hell I was doing 'cause I would break out in a sweat when sticking myself, but I'd tell myself to quit being a puss cake & just do it. After a couple weeks you get acclimated. Now, while it's not my favorite thing to do, it's not that big of a deal.

    It's quite a long read, but a couple of weeks ago I posted a summary of my 1st cycle.

    http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-s...ycle-test.html

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    I don't know why all the shit talking aside from the redicilous user name.

    Now I stay away from injecting my ass since I do my own injections. It's an awkward position & there are plenty of other spots.

    Take a deep breath - the needle scared me bad & my woman use to do my shots. But, it's just a fvcking needle.

    Do your tri's or delts - they are the easiest IMO.

    Warm your oil - prep the shot, the area & have shit on standby. This is just routine now - or pvssy out, it's your choice. GL

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    When you are injecting into a muscle you insert the needle into the muscle and then you aspirate.

    When you aspirate (unless you already have a lot of air in the syringe body) you are usually not going to see a bunch of air in the syringe as a muscle is not full of air...rather what you should feel is a very strong resistance of the plunger to being withdrawn since it will be pulling a vacuum since the needle is in solid muscle tissue.

    What you do not want to see is the syringe body fill with blood (or any other liquid) as this means that you are currently in a vein or lymph gland etc. If you experience a very strong resistance to the plunger being withdrawn then you are ready to slowly push the plunger in to the syringe body to inject the oil based AAS into the muscle.

    The AAS being oil based will have high viscosity (thickness) so it will take a lot of pressure and time to force it through the small diameter of the needles inner bore and into the muscle. You will do well to preheat the AAS before drawing it into the syringe the goal being to have the temp slightly above body temp when you are injecting. This will allow easier injection and more importantly will allow the AAS to penetrate the muscle tissues as you gradually push the plunger to the bottom of the syringe bore. You want to take approx. 30 seconds per ML/CC to push the AAS into the muscle tissue this will allow it to penetrate the muscle tissue instead of separating it around the needle causing trauma.

    Finally the blood you saw on withdrawing the needle was most likely from a blood vessel near the surface of the leg that was penetrated by the needle prior to the needle getting in deep enough to have yet reached the muscle (this is why you did not see blood when you tried to aspirate) all this stuff is fairly normal, particularly in the thigh/quads where surface vein/vessels are pretty common. It will happen less on glutes and even less on Delts however any spot can bleed profusely if you penetrate a substantial vein that is near the surface on the way in to the muscle....so one day when you are injecting you glute and withdraw the needle and blood runs down you leg to the floor do not call 911 LOL

    GOOD LUCK!

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    How'd the next shot go?

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    You weren't drawing back air. it was just a vacuum if you released the plunger it would disappear. Should be fine to inject then. If it doesn't inject it could be that you are in an area of scar tissue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by austinite View Post
    Cool Story Bro.
    Lmao - Austinites posts are my favourite, hands down. This comment was funny to me even before I saw where you actually got it from, then it was funnier.

    Now all joking aside, to CoolStroyBro, sounds like round two was your money maker. I'm new here and recently had a crazy scare myself so I'm not judging nor will I offer advice. I would just like to say that I'm glad to see that at least someone stepped up with good advice for you. After all, I think that's what this forum is intended for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CoolStroybro
    I drew test E from the vial , 1 ml. Removed air. I put the 1.5" needle in my quad . I tried to pull the plunger back to aspirate , it didn't! Tried to push to inject ,it was also stuck! I removed the syringe from my quad , to find lots of blood coming out. So I hit a vein? Glad I didnt inject. Second atempt , I injected the needle , pulled back to aspirate , found air in the syringe ,or what I thought. I chickened out and I pulled the syringe out. 3rd attempt , injected and aspirated. I tried to push the plunger but it was toooo heavy. I was pissed , removed the syringe and throw it full of 1 ml test in the trash I really hate this process. I can't do it at all. I watched dozens of videos. Don't know why the plunger is so heavy. It was 23G btw.
    You should of pinned the second time. Is this a joke?

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    Quote Originally Posted by base4291ball View Post
    You should of pinned the second time. Is this a joke?

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    Really he was probably fine all three times. Whether you see air or not is a function of how hard you pull back and how much air may already be available in the syringe/needle.

    The reason for aspirating is to make sure you do not wind up with a syringe full of blood, this indicates that the needle is currently residing in a vein/artery (arterial blood will be bluish and its a big major no no to inject into an artery)

    On the first attempt,
    The syringe likely did not have any air within the syringe body and needle hence it did not show any air upon aspiration and was very hard to pull due to the high vacuum. When he removed the needle the blood he saw, was probably due to a vein near the surface that was penetrated on the way in.

    On the second attempt,
    It likely went just fine, the only reason for the air seen on aspiration was that the syringe/needle either already had a small amount of air present, the needle was slightly loose leaking vacuum, or you simply pulled back a lot harder allowing some air to be seen.

    On the third attempt,
    If you try to push the plunger and it is really hard to push it indicates you are either in scar tissue or some body material other than happy muscle tissue....However, in someone doing their first self administered shot, with cold AAS, and a 23g needle, its very likely that they were just experiencing the normal resistance to flow through the needle.

    Hope that covers all the likely scenarios.

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    [QUOTE="CoolStroybro"]I drew test E from the vial , 1 ml. Removed air. I put the 1.5" needle in my quad . I tried to pull the plunger back to aspirate , it didn't! Tried to push to inject ,it was also stuck! I removed the syringe from my quad , to find lots of blood coming out. So I hit a vein? Glad I didnt inject. Second atempt , I injected the needle , pulled back to aspirate , found air in the syringe ,or what I thought. I chickened out and I pulled the syringe out. 3rd attempt , injected and aspirated. I tried to push the plunger but it was toooo heavy. I was pissed , removed the syringe and throw it full of 1 ml test in the trash I really hate this process. I can't do it at all. I watched dozens of videos. Don't know why the plunger is so heavy. It was 23G btw.[/QUOTE

    Lmfao!! Hit your shoulder

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    Quote Originally Posted by Far from massive
    Really he was probably fine all three times. Whether you see air or not is a function of how hard you pull back and how much air may already be available in the syringe/needle. The reason for aspirating is to make sure you do not wind up with a syringe full of blood, this indicates that the needle is currently residing in a vein/artery (arterial blood will be bluish and its a big major no no to inject into an artery) On the first attempt, The syringe likely did not have any air within the syringe body and needle hence it did not show any air upon aspiration and was very hard to pull due to the high vacuum. When he removed the needle the blood he saw, was probably due to a vein near the surface that was penetrated on the way in. On the second attempt, It likely went just fine, the only reason for the air seen on aspiration was that the syringe/needle either already had a small amount of air present, the needle was slightly loose leaking vacuum, or you simply pulled back a lot harder allowing some air to be seen. On the third attempt, If you try to push the plunger and it is really hard to push it indicates you are either in scar tissue or some body material other than happy muscle tissue....However, in someone doing their first self administered shot, with cold AAS, and a 23g needle, its very likely that they were just experiencing the normal resistance to flow through the needle. Hope that covers all the likely scenarios.
    Very well said, and all fact.

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    3 strikes and your out! this lifestyle is not for you.

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    Just finished Quad injection. Went successfully for the first time! Thx so much for these who told me the plunger is heavy because of oil viscosity and muscle resistance. I just pushed hard and slow and all went in. Thx all

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    And i actually learned to deliberately pull air into the syringe before injecting. Then turn the syringe upside down. Something called conversation technique. So the last bit of air push all the oil in.

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    Good to hear!

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    Your now part of the elite group known simply as... self injector's

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    Quote Originally Posted by Far from massive
    Your now part of the elite group known simply as... self injector's
    Haha, elite lol

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