What ele should i add?

[khain]

Good morning guys.
Iam currently getting shredded and iam playing with the 3 following steroids.
So...i "run" test/equipose and primo enanthate.
I was thinking to add one more steroid though iam thinking to add:
1)Tren acetate.
2)Winstrol injection.
3)Npp.
Sure Tren is the best choice from benefits side but...sides.
Winstrol?hmmmm....
Npp? dno this compound at all.
P.S thanks for your time.

[austinite]

Hey there, khain. Welcome to the community.

We prefer to give you advice tailored to you, not just generic advice. For that, we would need to know your age, height, weight, body fat percentage, cycle experience, training years and of course, your goals.

[Bert]

It's good to know you are already getting shredded. But I too will hold out my opinion until you give some background.

[king6 II]

Tren at age 23? NO......Is this your first cycle? As mentioned above what are your stats?

[Back In Black]

'Playing' with 3 steroids? You don't 'play' with them.

Very interested to see stats as requested by Austinite.

[khain]

Hello guys thanks for the quick replies.
Allright iam 24years old 1.85cm tall around 110kg.
My body fat should be around 20%.
Its my 3rd cycle,iam working out 4 or 5years in the row and
my goal is lose body fat ofc(cut).
For anything else you want to know about me just ask.

[khain]

[QUOTE=Back In Black;6819364]'Playing' with 3 steroids? You don't 'play' with them.
You dont have to be ironic for a wrong verb i used cauze english is not my mother language.
Iam well informed for anything i do.

[Back In Black]

[QUOTE=khain;6819392]

'Playing' with 3 steroids? You don't 'play' with them.
You dont have to be ironic for a wrong verb i used cauze english is not my mother language.
Iam well informed for anything i do.

I beg to differ. You are trying to throw compounds at a problem that, at 20% bodyfat! appears to be a lack of dietary knowledge or application of.

Tell us

Cycle history?

Dosage amount of each compound?

How long you are running each compound?

What on cycle ancillaries you are running?

Your PCT plan?

Your diet plan to lose this fat?

[khain]

Iam throwing compounds to a body with 20% bf who was bulking up 5months non stop and obviously i do so because i dislike the idea of losing (more) muscle while cutting.
Dosages:
Testo:500mg wk.
Boldenone:500mg wk.
Primo:500mg wk.
Your diet plan to lose this fat?
My diet plan to lose this fat is hard diet with no cheat meals at all(not gonna give details).
Cycle history?I answered that question.
And anyway i dont really believe i need your advices personaly thank you (Back in Black).

[Friesian]

Iam throwing compounds to a body with 20% bf who was bulking up 5months non stop and obviously i do so because i dislike the idea of losing (more) muscle while cutting.
Dosages:
Testo:500mg wk.
Boldenone:500mg wk.
Primo:500mg wk.
Your diet plan to lose this fat?
My diet plan to lose this fat is hard diet with no cheat meals at all(not gonna give details).
Cycle history?I answered that question.
And anyway i dont really believe i need your advices personaly thank you (Back in Black).

I don't see why you feel the need to be offensive to BIB considering he was being honest and trying to get relevant information to help you.
At 20% BF you will have increased aromatase activity and your BP will also be an absolute bitch to control.
The fact you aren't willing to divulge your "diet plan" suggests you don't have one. Giving people a sample just demonstrates your knowledge, it does not mean they are going to rip you off if that's what you think is going to happen.
And yes, you said this is your 3rd cycle, but you have given no information regarding what compounds you have previously used. Stating these will allow people to advise on what they may feel is most suitable to your current status.
People here are helpful but you need to give them information in order to allow them to give you the best help possible.

[khain]

You made my day by telling me that i obviously dont have a diet plan just because i was too lazy write it down.
Meal 1:70gr quaker/2whole eggs and 5 egg whites.
Meal 2:250gr sweet potato and 200gr chicken breast.
Meal 3:250gr sweet potato and 200gr chicken breast +Green salad.
Meal 4:250gr sweet potato and 200gr chicken breast.
Meal 5:250gr sweet potato and 200gr chicken breast.
Meal 6:250gr salmon and green salad once more.
-With my breakfast(meal #1) i take 2 Optimen Multivitamin pills.
-10gr oil daily.
-5gr salt daily.
-I dont drink protein while cutting(replaced them with bcaa/l-glutamine supplements) and daily i consume 20gr bcaa and 20gr L-glutamine daily
First steroid cycle i did was just testosterone propionate 100mg eod just to see how my body reacts(was cutting).
Whole cycle lasted 2 months.
Second steroid cycle i did was testosterone enathate and boldon.
Both at 500mg wk,whole cycle lasted 4months.
Third is the one iam doing right now(boldon/testo/primo).
Testo/Boldon/Primo 500mg wk.
Currently on 1rst month.

[redz]

Here's the lowdown facts you don't want to hear. You are fat, accept that and move forward to correct it. 2nd thing you are listing to yourself about your diet and training and you are trying to over compensate with gear. You have no business running gear with your current knowledge or stats. I hear no mention of ai's, pct, hcg you need to stop now. Shredded and 20% bf can't be in the same statement.

[king6 II]

There is more to diet than just eating foods that are rich in protein and complex carbs. It is essentially a formula that you use to tailor a diet specifically to you by calculating your TDEE, establishing a surplus then calculating how much protein, fat and complex carbs should be in that calculation. Your diet needs some work, remember gains are made in the kitchen.

[khain]

Iam moving forward to deal with my issue.
You didnt heard about them(ai's, pct, hcg) cauze i didnt bother write them down too(didnt knew its necessary).
*P.S#1 Dont tell me your avatar is you real life.
If yes,my god you are tragic.

[redz]

I am tragic? Bitch please I was 230lbs there I'm 244 now.

[khain]

No shoulders/Arms at all.
Small chest.
Legs/back cant see and judge.
Pitty the roids.
Sec lemme put myself as avatar one seconds please
This is me before starting bulking up(end of september).

[king6 II]

No shoulders/Arms at all.
Small chest.
Legs/back cant see and judge.
Pitty the roids.
Sec lemme put myself as avatar one seconds please

Dude go the fvck away already! Can someone ban this guy.

[king6 II]

I am tragic? Bitch please I was 230lbs there I'm 244 now.

[khain]

Ban me?well yea,sure np bro.
Nobody is answering what iam asking anyway.
If i knew i have to deal with ppl like you and the other 3 above i was definetely going to read forum threads to get answers instead of make my own.

[Bonaparte]

Your diet kinda sucks...the macros may look ok for bulking, but I doubt you're getting enough micronutrients, fiber, etc.

[songdog]

Bro you asked for advice.Guys were trying to give it too you.Now it maybe not wat you want to hear.But its sound advice.We don't recommend cycling at 20% bf.And we don't tolerate all the name calling.You will be banned if this continues.

[Capebuffalo]

I'd like to see a current pic. Hold a piece of paper that says redz on it. Then we will know it's you.

[Capebuffalo]

I'd like to see a current pic. Hold a piece of paper that says redz on it. Then we will know it's you.

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[Back In Black]

Somebody tell him what he wants to hear not what he needs to hear. Come on guys cheer him up.

[king6 II]

Somebody tell him what he wants to hear not what he needs to hear. Come on guys cheer him up.

I wish I could but I can't stop staring at your avy.

[Back In Black]

I wish I could but I can't stop staring at your avy.

Well, at least somebody in here cheered up

[redz]

For the record not everyone here is a bodybuilder in the competitive sense. I play hockey and have an 80" reach which was useful when I used to train for boxing. You claim that's you but you have 20%bf you are just full of $hit.

[khain]

With sadness i see you dont even read what i write Redz.
I said that my current avatar is ME IN THE END OF PREVIOUS SUMMER (september/2013).
So nope iam not full of s***.

[khain]

I'd like to see a current pic. Hold a piece of paper that says redz on it. Then we will know it's you.

Thats childish and its not going to happen.

[redz]

Childish? Your full of $hit.

[Capebuffalo]

Thats childish and its not going to happen.

How so? Your avi could be of anyone. Redz is redz in his avi. If you are going to tell him how awful he looks you should be man enough to post a current pic. Unless that's not you in your avi. You are a man right? But if you can't back up what you say. Well you should keep your mouth shut on others appearances. Don't you think?

[khain]

Childish? Your full of $hit.

Bro is my new avatar any better? i tried be more obvious that i was like this previous summer this time and not RIGHT NOW.

[redz]

So your a fat tub of lard now ok then fine.

[Black]

If that is you in your avatar at all, then I would assume you have some knowledge in nutrition. Going from the bodyfat in your avatar to 20% would be ridiculous. Did you bulk with doughnuts and have Little Debbie as your training partner? Like Cape said, post a pic of yourself currently. Otherwise, just shut up and leave.

[Black]

Bro is my new avatar any better? i tried be more obvious that i was like this previous summer this time and not RIGHT NOW.

Again, take a current pic with a piece of paper saying 'Redz' or make like a tree and get outta here.

[khain]

So your a fat tub of lard now ok then fine.

I really need more ppl like you bro you are giving me power to continue with such comments(And not cheat even once per month).
Fun part is its actualy 1/3/2014 i got enough time to do miracles obviously i wont be "fat" for long.

[Black]

I really need more ppl like you bro you are giving me power to continue with such comments(And not cheat even once per month).
Fun part is its actualy 1/3/2014 i got enough time to do miracles obviously i wont be "fat" for long.

Here is an English lesson since its not your native language. There is no need for quotes on the word above. You ARE fat.

[Black]

Come on MI, I see you. Join the fun.

[khain]

If that is you in your avatar at all, then I would assume you have some knowledge in nutrition. Going from the bodyfat in your avatar to 20% would be ridiculous. Did you bulk with doughnuts and have Little Debbie as your training partner? Like Cape said, post a pic of yourself currently. Otherwise, just shut up and leave.

If you read more carefully you will see somewhere written that i was bulking up 5 months non stop so being on 20% BF sounds completely normal to me.

[khain]

Come on MI, I see you. Join the fun.

Iam here bro relax.
And why exactly i have to do what you say?