first cycle Pharm vs UGL

**MisterRogers** · 02-28-2014, 11:09 AM

ok I have spent several weeks reading stickies and weighing pros and cons, health risks vs reward and I'm ready
so here are some stats if you need them?
35yrs
6'4" 250lbs 18% weight training on and off since high school and started crossfit 2yrs ago.I am trying to be a competitive crossfitter
1-12 250mg test E e3.5d
1-12 hcg 250iu e3.5d
1-14 arimidex .25 eod
pct 14 days after last pin clomid 70/50/50/50 Nolva 40/20/20/20
so here is my question I have 3 10ml test E from UGL I trust my source very much but its still UGL so you never know??
I also have 2 5ml of Delatestryl test E 100% legit pharm but only 10 ml
should I split it and suppliment the possibly underdosed/fake / maybe g2g ugl with the pharm?
I was thinking of maybe making two cycles out of it, one now one for another time down the road and split the 5ml between the two? thoughts??
or option 2
start with the ugl from what i am told I will know in a few weeks if its G2G from my raging boner and wife telling me to get off her! and finish off with the pharm?
any thoughts on this would be great

**Friesian** · 02-28-2014, 01:43 PM

Originally Posted by MisterRogers

should I split it and suppliment the possibly underdosed/fake / maybe g2g ugl with the pharm?

When you say you're considering supplementing them, do you mean you would draw from both vials into the same needle? If so, I would think you need to think about the time your vials will be stored for. Whilst there may not be a huge drop off in potency, the longer storage of opened vials may cause some minor drops in potency.

Also, not having a go at you but, you may wish to consider dropping a couple of percent body fat as it's usually suggested you only start a cycle if you are under 15% BF.

**michael30** · 02-28-2014, 02:01 PM

What brand is the ugl. If we know we might be able to give you a better answer.

**MisterRogers** · 02-28-2014, 02:13 PM

yah sorry I forgot to mention that I'm not starting tomorrow or anything and I will drop bf % before I start just getting my ducks in a row! the ugl is praxx

**MisterRogers** · 02-28-2014, 02:52 PM

yah same needle i was thinking .5ml of each

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**Friesian** · 02-28-2014, 05:28 PM

Well, like I said before I would consider the potency issue regarding prolonged storage.
Also, having done a quick search on the forums, this is the only time anyone has ever even mentioned this brand. Not tryna worry you or anything bud but it seems a bit odd that literally no-one on this forum seems to have even heard of it.

**MisterRogers** · 02-28-2014, 06:43 PM

I was thinking the same! Its from Canada I know new ugl's are popping up all the time sometimes the same lab that keeps changing names so yah I'm a little worried about it with that being said my source used it and I don't think he would lie to me but like I said before its ugl you never know?? I have some time to think it over as I'm still getting my bf% down hopefully someone will have some info by then

**ghettoboyd** · 03-01-2014, 04:25 PM

Originally Posted by Friesian

Well, like I said before I would consider the potency issue regarding prolonged storage.
Also, having done a quick search on the forums, this is the only time anyone has ever even mentioned this brand. Not tryna worry you or anything bud but it seems a bit odd that literally no-one on this forum seems to have even heard of it.

fyi bro there are hundreds of ugl's out there so its more than common for no one to have heard of them especially if they are new...dosent mean anything really imho...ive been here for almost 6 yrs and no one has ever mentioned any brands of ugl's that ive used over the years(and ive used many) to give you an example....and your whole potency theory is off...im not understanding your issue, gear lasts for years and then sometime after the expiration date and if you popped the top off a vial the vial is still sealed and steril even after multiple uses so there is no issue there either...again just saying...

**Friesian** · 03-02-2014, 03:17 AM

Sorry if my information was incorrect, I understand that there are lots of UGLs that pop up, I was just trying to say that I was surprised it wasn't one that anyone had ever mentioned before + in terms of the possible under-dosing MR was asking about, it makes it difficult to comment on this. I'm also sorry if my information about potency decrease was incorrect, I was basing this statement upon what I had read on another thread.