Curious, any year round users (not trt)?

[Schwarzenegger]

I'm curious if anyone stays on year round at cycle doses well above trt? Not planning on it for myself but I assume pros are always "on", wondering if anyone here is?

[Matt]

I have considered it but decided that the potential health issues were far to risky....

[MuscleInk]

Too risky and totally unnecessary.

[austinite]

Not for me. Not worth it.

[Frankster83]

I am on yr round. I am on trt and I have to test with my doc every 6 months. So I usuall cycle 3 times in between. It was a hard pill to swallow when I found out I'd have to be on trt for the rest of my life, so I said to myself, when life hands u lemons, u gotta make some lemonade. I mainly do short cycles no more than 3 aas. A couple of weeks before my test I'll bring my doses back to prescribed. Also I make sure that the last cycle before my test I run short esters

[ironbeck]

On cycle no, but on trt yes.

[MuscleInk]

On cycle no, but on trt yes.

^^^Yes. Agreed. My comment was strictly year around anabolic cycling. I agree with blast and cruise if you're on TRT (as am I).

[Wizwell]

It is called blast and cruise for a reason. Not blast and blast.

[newguy92]

A friend of mine has recently decided that he isn't going to come off. Been running for maybe 6 months now straight

[Schwarzenegger]

Blast and blast hah awesome.

Ya I know a guy whose been on for a year and I was like wtf. He too scared to come off he says cuz he'll get smaller and doesn't want side effects.

I was like mofo ur getting side effects for being on that long!!

[Crazy Chris]

It's perfectly fine to be on year round, it all depends on your goals, but you need to take a brake from high doses of AAS once in a while to give your body and receptors a brake. 6 weeks of TRT once a year will suffice.
You also need to keep all AAS cycles at 8 weeks, then take two weeks off or at TRT-dose (it all depends on your blood levels), to make maximum gains and keep side effects down to a minimum.

The only time you may do a longer cycle is when you're cutting down. Then it's not about making maximum gains, but to try to keep your gains while on a low calorie diet.

Here is my year round routine:
(it works great!)

8 weeks Bulking
2 weeks TRT (250 mg Test C ew)

8 weeks Bulking
2 weeks TRT (250 mg Test C ew)

8 weeks Bulking
2 weeks TRT (250 mg Test C ew)

16 weeks Cutting
6 weeks TRT (250 mg Test C ew)

52 weeks total.

You can also choose to PCT once or twice a year, but staying on TRT is easier on your system and a much better option in my opinion.

[derekkpapa1]

Not for me to much risk- 2 cycles a year bulk and cut- I do run spring summer cycle 2-3 weeks longer though

[roadglide83]

It's perfectly fine to be on year round, it all depends on your goals, but you need to take a brake from high doses of AAS once in a while to give your body and receptors a brake. 6 weeks of TRT once a year will suffice. You also need to keep all AAS cycles at 8 weeks, then take two weeks off or at TRT-dose (it all depends on your blood levels), to make maximum gains and keep side effects down to a minimum. The only time you may do a longer cycle is when you're cutting down. Then it's not about making maximum gains, but to try to keep your gains while on a low calorie diet. Here is my year round routine: (it works great!) 8 weeks Bulking 2 weeks TRT (250 mg Test C ew) 8 weeks Bulking 2 weeks TRT (250 mg Test C ew) 8 weeks Bulking 2 weeks TRT (250 mg Test C ew) 16 weeks Cutting 6 weeks TRT (250 mg Test C ew) 52 weeks total. You can also choose to PCT once or twice a year, but staying on TRT is easier on your system and a much better option in my opinion.

When you are saying you run shorter 8 weeks cycles do you also run short esters or are long esters ok to run also?

[kelkel]

You can also choose to PCT once or twice a year, but staying on TRT is easier on your system and a much better option in my opinion.

You can't be serious. TRT is now better than a healthy, normal system? Most guys who stay on year round are usually simply afraid of losing their gains or have ego issues that just won't allow them to take a break. If you're making money from this or shooting for a pro card, fine. If not, there's just no reason for it.

[Bert]

I try and bring my dose down to 500mg per week for a few weeks here and there. But I pretty much stay on 2g plus. I don't, however, use orals except for contest prep. I have done this for 3 years and plan on doing it for one more year. If I win a certain contest, I then will be taking a nice long healthy break of trt.

[Bert]

I try and bring my dose down to 500mg per week for a few weeks here and there. But I pretty much stay on 2g plus. I don't, however, use orals except for contest prep. I have done this for 3 years and plan on doing it for one more year. If I win a certain contest, I then will be taking a nice long healthy break of trt.

That said, I never ever recommend that any of my guys I train do anything like this. I actually won't let my wife even do aas because of the masculinizing effects. I am only taking this unhealthy route because this is my last hurrah and I can't afford to take any steps backwards.

[Cuz]

I try and bring my dose down to 500mg per week for a few weeks here and there. But I pretty much stay on 2g plus. I don't, however, use orals except for contest prep. I have done this for 3 years and plan on doing it for one more year. If I win a certain contest, I then will be taking a nice long healthy break of trt.

Good luck buddy. Hope you do well

[kelkel]

I try and bring my dose down to 500mg per week for a few weeks here and there. But I pretty much stay on 2g plus. I don't, however, use orals except for contest prep. I have done this for 3 years and plan on doing it for one more year. If I win a certain contest, I then will be taking a nice long healthy break of trt.

That said, I never ever recommend that any of my guys I train do anything like this. I actually won't let my wife even do aas because of the masculinizing effects. I am only taking this unhealthy route because this is my last hurrah and I can't afford to take any steps backwards.

Knowing your goals it's understood. If I were to consider competing again I'd probably do something similar. That being said, the majority of guys are simply casual users who have zero real reasons to run such doses.

[Bert]

Good luck buddy. Hope you do well

Thankyou, I like my chances to do decent this year as I've improved a few parts that were weaker. I just have to come in sliced and let the chips fall where they might.

[Bert]

Knowing your goals it's understood. If I were to consider competing again I'd probably do something similar. That being said, the majority of guys are simply casual users who have zero real reasons to run such doses.

A agree. The only reason I'm running higher doses is because I've tapped out the lower doses. I look forward to the days I run 500mg test and feel great.

[oldnsedentary]

I assume pros are always "on", wondering if anyone here is?

Not just pros, but any of the bigger, more impressive guys are on test doses year round that most of us would not consider even for a short cycle. You just can't keep the massive size while lean if you cycle off or even revert to TRT doses of 150 mg a week for long periods of time.

[bodybuilder88]

I stay on year round, been on for pretty much 2 years straight. In the off season I'll blast my test anywhere from 750-1000mg, and usually throw in tren or deca, gh and insulin along with it. The lowest I go on my test right now is 500mg. I will only use orals the last 6 weeks before a show. The only reason I've decided to go this route is because I compete and have made it to a fairly high level. In the competitive bodybuilding world I think most will agree that it's easier on your system to blast and cruise, it eliminates some of the stress pct can put on your body, and there is never enough time to follow the time on plus pct= time off rule. If I wasn't competing but still decide to use, I'd stick to the normal 12 week cycles and pct.

[Cuz]

I stay on year round, been on for pretty much 2 years straight. In the off season I'll blast my test anywhere from 750-1000mg, and usually throw in tren or deca, gh and insulin along with it. The lowest I go on my test right now is 500mg. I will only use orals the last 6 weeks before a show. The only reason I've decided to go this route is because I compete and have made it to a fairly high level. In the competitive bodybuilding world I think most will agree that it's easier on your system to blast and cruise, it eliminates some of the stress pct can put on your body, and there is never enough time to follow the time on plus pct= time off rule. If I wasn't competing but still decide to use, I'd stick to the normal 12 week cycles and pct.

I'm inclined to agree. Competeting changes things

[kelkel]

I'm inclined to agree. Competeting changes things

It surely does. I think about it all the time.

[Ashop]

I'm curious if anyone stays on year round at cycle doses well above trt? Not planning on it for myself but I assume pros are always "on", wondering if anyone here is?

I work with a few dozen athletes very closely who stay on year around.

[oldnsedentary]

I stay on year round, been on for pretty much 2 years straight. In the off season I'll blast my test anywhere from 750-1000mg, and usually throw in tren or deca, gh and insulin along with it. The lowest I go on my test right now is 500mg. I will only use orals the last 6 weeks before a show. The only reason I've decided to go this route is because I compete and have made it to a fairly high level. In the competitive bodybuilding world I think most will agree that it's easier on your system to blast and cruise, it eliminates some of the stress pct can put on your body, and there is never enough time to follow the time on plus pct= time off rule. If I wasn't competing but still decide to use, I'd stick to the normal 12 week cycles and pct.

Thanks for providing your actual examples and insight. Very useful contribution to this forum.

[MuscleInk]

I work with a few dozen athletes very closely who stay on year around.

I think the key here is "athletes". What concerns me is when recreational users or armchair athletes suddenly think running year around (non-TRT) cycles is normal or acceptable. Most would not be having routine blood work to verify hematocrit, hemaglobin, lipids, PSA, etc are all within acceptable ranges and could potentially cause harm to themselves before such tests are performed to identify and prevent problems.

Even given the choice between normal levels and TRT, I'd much rather cycle on and off without the dependency of TRT. I have no problems with injections. I have plenty of experience with them and am very skilled at it, but I'd certainly trade a normal functioning HTPA and testosterone levels any day over TRT.

[bodybuilder88]

Thanks for providing your actual examples and insight. Very useful contribution to this forum.

Thanks, it may say that I'm a new member here but been lurking for a few years so I have a general idea of how this forum works.

[kelkel]

Thanks, it may say that I'm a new member here but been lurking for a few years so I have a general idea of how this forum works.

Now that you're not lurking. Contribute. Get that post count up. Need more competitors here.

[bodybuilder88]

Now that you're not lurking. Contribute. Get that post count up. Need more competitors here.

That's what I'm working on now bro! I've learnt a lot both from lurking here and from my own experience and the guidance of my coaches, feel I'm at the point now where I can contribute with a decent knowledge base, by no means an expert like a lot of the people here, but working on it.

[kelkel]

Well, glad to have ya here. If that's you in your Avi you look great! Do you have a show coming up?

[bodybuilder88]

Well, glad to have ya here. If that's you in your Avi you look great! Do you have a show coming up?

Thanks bro, really feeling welcome around here. Yea that's me in the avi from my last show. My next show is September of this year. Still have a few weeks of off season left before cracking the whip at 16 weeks out.