Looking to run first cycle, want advice on what to run

**Big_Man** · 03-04-2014, 05:39 PM

I am 20, 6 foot 1, and roughly 315lbs. i have been training for a few years now and have had a very hard time loosing weight, i have always been overweight. i have just started training for strongman competitions and i am looking to drop the excess fat i have on me without compromising my strength. i have taken various body comp tests and i have about 60lbs of fat to lose. i don't expect to lose all of it with one cycle but I am looking for something to take to kind of kick start the process and shed off a good chunk of it. I go to the gym 5 days a week (4 days are approx 1.5 hour gym sessions with the 5th day being event training for competitions) i will also be accompanying the cycle with a high protein diet with very limited carbs and lots of greens. I don't want to run anything too crazy or too expensive (i know it isn't going to be cheap but i just mean relative price, and i want a fairly low risk substance). i have had friends suggest Anavar as well as Cytomel however i am not sure if anavar is really what i need here and i am worried about strength loss on Cytomel.

If you have any suggestions or advice it would be greatly appreciated thank you!

**deltapapatango** · 03-04-2014, 05:45 PM

Do some research on the boards first. Clen to get some bf % down first might be the best first step not a juice cycle.

What is your blood pressure? Check your numbers first.

**newguy92** · 03-04-2014, 06:20 PM

Originally Posted by Big_Man

I am 20, 6 foot 1, and roughly 315lbs. i have been training for a few years now and have had a very hard time loosing weight, i have always been overweight. i have just started training for strongman competitions and i am looking to drop the excess fat i have on me without compromising my strength. i have taken various body comp tests and i have about 60lbs of fat to lose. i don't expect to lose all of it with one cycle but I am looking for something to take to kind of kick start the process and shed off a good chunk of it. I go to the gym 5 days a week (4 days are approx 1.5 hour gym sessions with the 5th day being event training for competitions) i will also be accompanying the cycle with a high protein diet with very limited carbs and lots of greens. I don't want to run anything too crazy or too expensive (i know it isn't going to be cheap but i just mean relative price, and i want a fairly low risk substance). i have had friends suggest Anavar as well as Cytomel however i am not sure if anavar is really what i need here and i am worried about strength loss on Cytomel. If you have any suggestions or advice it would be greatly appreciated thank you!

You shouldn't be considering steroids at all. You're still young and your bodyfat is definitely too high. What's your diet like?

**derekkpapa1** · 03-04-2014, 08:23 PM

Best results will come from diet and exercise period. No need for any type of aas or supplements. When you get below 20% bf IMO you can run some clen and some diet aids but again you will realize like the rest of us that been there the magic (big secret) is diet and cardo. Be strong and stick to it you will see results. Visit nutrition section best of luck

**mgambino310** · 03-04-2014, 08:48 PM

Originally Posted by Derekjpapa

Best results will come from diet and exercise period. No need for any type of aas or supplements. When you get below 20% bf IMO you can run some clen and some diet aids but again you will realize like the rest of us that been there the magic (big secret) is diet and cardo. Be strong and stick to it you will see results. Visit nutrition section best of luck

Well said

**Big_Man** · 03-04-2014, 08:52 PM

thank you very much Clen looks like a very good option at a first glance, i will for sure look into it further, it looks perfect for what im looking for

My Blood pressure is good, i am not sure what my exact numbers are but it has been checked on several occasions and is normal

As for diet i Agree diet and exercise are the best options, however for now i am just looking for something to help it along a bit for maximum results

**derekkpapa1** · 03-05-2014, 06:14 AM

Originally Posted by Big_Man

thank you very much Clen looks like a very good option at a first glance, i will for sure look into it further, it looks perfect for what im looking for

My Blood pressure is good, i am not sure what my exact numbers are but it has been checked on several occasions and is normal

As for diet i Agree diet and exercise are the best options, however for now i am just looking for something to help it along a bit for maximum results

you do realize there is a general rule as to how much weight a week you should loose. Do you want to loose 5-10 a week and look weak and fragile like the people on biggest loser?? If you loose to much weight to fast then you are also loosing muscle. Btw

**SandmanDRE** · 03-05-2014, 07:30 AM

Personally, I would get your diet on (lots of info here on nutrition) and get you BF% down significantly lower before ever doing any AAS. It doesn't come easy, bro. Keep at it!

**AngryNR3C4** · 03-05-2014, 09:11 AM

Originally Posted by Derekjpapa

you do realize there is a general rule as to how much weight a week you should loose. Do you want to loose 5-10 a week and look weak and fragile like the people on biggest loser?? If you loose to much weight to fast then you are also loosing muscle. Btw

this

Try to cut very slow, or be prepared to lose strength.
That's one of the reasons some powerlifters/strongmen are fat.