ar-r products?

**newbjuice** · 03-10-2014, 06:22 PM

Anything help with testosterone ? Looking for some positive feedback.

**scotty51312** · 03-10-2014, 06:33 PM

What kinda testosterone help are you looking for? Stats? goals?

**newbjuice** · 03-10-2014, 06:45 PM

I came here last summer looking for advice, had my test checked a few times, was gonna be prescribed testim cause I was at 258 then 270, they told me 270 is in normal range,mri came back good for the pituitary really sucked, went the ugl route , first time ever trying anything like this, felt strong and got a hard on that was worth a damn. Ended up with high bp from it....head felt like it was gonna explode, went to the ER. Now months later no drive no motivation, made a dr appointment tomorrow for my levels checked again. Im beyond aggravated and pissed off at my body. I need something, lowtestosterone.com seems like a good way but any initial fees is out of the question.

**MuscleInk** · 03-10-2014, 06:58 PM

Have you had blood work done since you initial use of anabolics? Sounds like you may have used steroids without proper AI, HCG , and PCT. The problems you described could have very well been caused by elevated estrogen (or prolactin - depending on the steroids used). There's much more to cycling than taking a bottle of steroids.

**newbjuice** · 03-10-2014, 07:04 PM

I didnt get checked afterwards, I just didnt give a shit anymore, Ive been told the dr works for u but its like they do everything to not do what u need. Wtf.

Id also like to add im not one of these other guys on this board thqt are worried about gains and muscle. I wanna have the energy to play with my kids. And have motivation.

**David LoPan** · 03-10-2014, 07:40 PM

Originally Posted by newbjuice

I didnt get checked afterwards, I just didnt give a shit anymore, Ive been told the dr works for u but its like they do everything to not do what u need. Wtf.

Id also like to add im not one of these other guys on this board thqt are worried about gains and muscle. I wanna have the energy to play with my kids. And have motivation.

Sound like you might need that blood work done. If you are just looking for energy there could be a number of reasons your energy is low, not just your test level. I know when I felt that way it was my test levels and the TRT really has helped me. The dosing can play an important part. They had me start out low and then they changed my dosing and days between each dose. It helped and was worth the money. I also found out that my T4 and T3 were low. Your high BP could be from a number of reasons.

**MuscleInk** · 03-10-2014, 08:18 PM

Originally Posted by BigTahl

Sound like you might need that blood work done. If you are just looking for energy there could be a number of reasons your energy is low, not just your test level. I know when I felt that way it was my test levels and the TRT really has helped me. The dosing can play an important part. They had me start out low and then they changed my dosing and days between each dose. It helped and was worth the money. I also found out that my T4 and T3 were low. Your high BP could be from a number of reasons.

^^^^Correct. Blood work is your best indicator. Lethargy can be the result of many things and a full set of blood work with hormone panels would be a wise idea.

Even if muscle gains and strength aren't your objectives, you have to understand that hormones regulate numerous essential functions (sleep, wakefulness, mood, appetite, sex drive, digestion, cognition, wound healing, immune system, and more). When you take external steroids , your internal gonadotropins (sex hormones) will be impaired. Additionally, changes to normal levels of testosterone can cause increased estrogen production which in turn can reduce energy, strength, sex drive, and a increase many cardiac risks. You may have inadvertently done more damage taking steroids at random without knowing how best to use them.

**newbjuice** · 03-10-2014, 08:26 PM

Desperation is what made me use.

**David LoPan** · 03-10-2014, 08:42 PM

Maybe you need an SSRI . . . dont play with your life looking for a quick fix. You are young, 31, take the advice of the doctor and get your blood work done and find out what is going on with you.

**newbjuice** · 03-10-2014, 08:49 PM

I take prozac. I dont recover from workouts. My mind wants to do everything in the world, my body doesn't.

**newbjuice** · 03-10-2014, 08:55 PM

Can anyone give me the rundown on ar-r ? Something I should try?

**David LoPan** · 03-10-2014, 09:00 PM

Originally Posted by MuscleInk

^^^^Correct. Blood work is your best indicator. Lethargy can be the result of many things and a full set of blood work with hormone panels would be a wise idea.

Even if muscle gains and strength aren't your objectives, you have to understand that hormones regulate numerous essential functions (sleep, wakefulness, mood, appetite, sex drive, digestion, cognition, wound healing, immune system, and more). When you take external steroids, your internal gonadotropins (sex hormones) will be impaired. Additionally, changes to normal levels of testosterone can cause increased estrogen production which in turn can reduce energy, strength, sex drive, and a increase many cardiac risks. You may have inadvertently done more damage taking steroids at random without knowing how best to use them.

This is your best advice. Without blood work it will be hit and miss. You could try all of ar-r products if you want but who knows what will work. Guess you could try any one of the AI products and see what they can do.

**newbjuice** · 03-10-2014, 09:45 PM

Im about to ween myself off prozac cause id rather be dead then how I feel.

**David LoPan** · 03-10-2014, 10:24 PM

Prozac is a very old drug. There are a lot of other drugs out there that have gone generic that work better than Prozac. I would talk to your doctor about them before you take yourself off that medication.

**DontTaseMeBro** · 03-11-2014, 09:19 AM

Don't play around with jumping on and off Prozac. I've seen that land a perfectly "normal" friend that suffered from moderate depression in the psych hospital with some serious issues. Sounds like you need to visit with your gp and / or psych doc for starters and then look into the possibility of TRT under a doctor's supervision. In the mean time, you might check out Austinite's amino acid sticky. I think he has a "feel good stack" of aminos that may help you out while you're getting the other issues sorted. Best wishes.