Steroids or SARMs?

[Pantelis1001]

Hi All,

I am Pantelis from Greece.

33 years old, 82kg, 183cm, around 11% Bf.
I am about to make a cutting cycle and i am confused on what to choose.

I am between the triple stack from Sarms1:
Ostarine (MK-2866),
Andarine (S-4),
GW-501516

..and the cutting cycle of geneza:
GP Test Prop 100,
GP Tren Acetate 100,
GP Stan 10,
GP Anastrozole.

Any opinions and compares will be much appreciated... :-)

Thx in advance!!!

[qscgugcsq]

You havent done remotely close to enough research to be ready for steroids. And Im not even talking about your weight...

No offense intended, you are here to learn, therefore I inform you of the risk.

Stanazolol a.k.a winstrol will **** your lipida up faster than a douchebag in a milf assembly.

Trenbolone is a 19nor therefor you gonna need a d2agonist such as prami, caber or bromo.
Plus, it is the strongest, the most potent and also the worst in term of side effect, that if you dont have any experience with steroids, starting with the king of all is foolish to say the least...

The effectiveness of sarms are highly doubtfull...
As far as Ive seen on bloodwork, sarms shutdown a little, so running nolva as a PCT would be a wise idea.


And about your weight, you seem on the light side.
Except if your height is under average, 82kg for a healthy male is not enough to consider steroids.
You probably could gain alot more naturally. And at that weight and BF I would rather see you bulking...

Either way, you are far(in term of knowledge) from being ready to use any type of enhancing drugs.

Keep reading about AAS here. Stickies are your friends(search for: planning and executing a successfull first cycle). I cant link it on my phone.(or wait for someone posting it for me XD)

Take a trip to the training and nutrition section. Get your workout dialed in as well as your diet.
And enjoy the gains.

Good luck

[altered genetics]

Drop the tren.

[redz]

Personally I have no interest in sarms look for a more basic test cycle and make sure to get to the diet forum to figure out why you are so light.

[Pantelis1001]

Hi All,

Thx for the interest..
I am in that weight cause i was semipro soccer player for all of my life...
Now i am interested in general fitness, i play soccer with friends every week, i lift two times a week in a circuit program and i do h.i.t two times a week also.

I look for a beginners cycle to drop my bf% around 7-8%!
I am in a ketogenic diet around a month now and going well!
I am not interested in bulking. I want to have a lean, hard look as i do now, but more aggressivly!! :-)

Friend qscgugcsq, i tried to read as much as i can. Dont believe though that it is something easy for someone who doent use english as a first language!
I dont want to offend your knowledge, i just needed to discuss my thinkings.

Thx in Advance!!

[redz]

You should not use steroids if you work out twice per week. 7% bf is pretty pointless I'm confused by this goal show us a current pic. Not many people would want to cut when they are so tiny and already 11% bf something isn't right.

[qscgugcsq]

The issue here is not your weight, you want to be that size and I totally respect it. It is totally fine.

You have to think about more that just getting to 7-8%...

You may be able to reach it naturally.
However there is good chance that you wont be able to maintain it will keeping a sane mind and social life with dieting.

With a cycle, you may get there easier. But eventually you will gain a bit fat too overtime. Ans return to your baseline. Or go crazy from all the dieting required.

Cycling will help reaching it but if you dont keep using you may not be to maintain it Anyway...

Im not here to decide what should be your goal, but keep in mind that steroids are a risk for your health no matter how safely you do them...

If you are ready to take that risk, you have to know what you do, and WHY you do it.

Is being 8% for 2 month worth it??


If you want to be year round at that BF, you may need to cruise. Once again you need to assess your goal and what you are ready to do for it. There is alot to consider.

I personally do not advice you to use steroids, or any other PED. For your goal. Cause from what I consider important, it do not worth it.

Good luck