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    I think I injected into bone!!!

    Guys, i pinned earlier today and I shoot my glutes a lot.. I wanted to hit a different spot then usual so I moved closer to my hip, I usually hit the middle
    Of the glute. So I jabbed her in and shot, after I started rubbing it and realized I shot almost in my ****ing hip!! It's where my glute ties into my hammy.. And if I dig I can feel
    Bone there!! And four hours later it's sore as ****! Did I hit bone boys!? If so am I in trouble? Is that bad? Thanks

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    You are fine brother.

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    Ok just wanted to make sure haha thanks

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    bone is hard, muscle is soft. when you inserted the needle, did it feel like you're hitting something hard? i'm guessing not.


    but you mentioned "where your glut meets your hams". is that still in the upper outer quadrant?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AD View Post
    bone is hard, muscle is soft. when you inserted the needle, did it feel like you're hitting something hard? i'm guessing not.


    but you mentioned "where your glut meets your hams". is that still in the upper outer quadrant?
    I must be tired as hell. I've been reading stuff and missing stuff all night on these posts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RangerDanger830 View Post
    I must be tired as hell. I've been reading stuff and missing stuff all night on these posts.
    its probably just op's poor description
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    if you injected down towards your hammy you took a major risk of hitting your sciatic nerve. And if you did you would have known it the instant the needle hit and possibly lost feeling in your leg for a few days. Like the others said stick to the upper outer quadrant

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    Quote Originally Posted by scotty51312
    if you injected down towards your hammy you took a major risk of hitting your sciatic nerve. And if you did you would have known it the instant the needle hit and possibly lost feeling in your leg for a few days. Like the others said stick to the upper outer quadrant
    They'll learn the hard way if they get anywhere near that nerve!
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    Just talking about hitting bone, sounds painful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AD View Post


    but you mentioned "where your glut meets your hams". is that still in the upper outer quadrant?
    Thinking somebody may need an anatomy lesson!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Back In Black View Post
    Thinking somebody may need an anatomy lesson!
    could be some obscure deformity or malformation that i haven't heard of

    i better go read up some more

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    Quote Originally Posted by AshopRep View Post
    Just talking about hitting bone, sounds painful.
    It actually doesn't hurt sometimes. But then again, other times its death. I think the only real risk here is if he somehow punctured the bone and I have never heard of that happening unless you have like a 15g needle and you are paul bunyaning that thing in you.

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    What guys, y'all have never done bone injections? The best

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    Quote Originally Posted by base4291ball View Post
    What guys, y'all have never done bone injections? The best

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    I guess that explains how some people are "big boned"

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    Is there a diagram on where to and not to pin?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Atomicomedy View Post
    Is there a diagram on where to and not to pin?
    Youtube has videos if you search something like gluteal injections, intramuscular injections, or just injecting in your bum. Better to see it done first hand than to try to interpret a typed explanation

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    Quote Originally Posted by RangerDanger830
    I guess that explains how some people are "big boned"
    Haha I like that! That explains all the big boned women out there

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    Quote Originally Posted by base4291ball View Post
    Haha I like that! That explains all the big boned women out there

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    Well it sure as hell isn't the fast food or soda

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    Quote Originally Posted by Atomicomedy View Post
    Is there a diagram on where to and not to pin?
    Have a look at spot injection.com

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    Quote Originally Posted by RangerDanger830 View Post
    It actually doesn't hurt sometimes. But then again, other times its death. I think the only real risk here is if he somehow punctured the bone and I have never heard of that happening unless you have like a 15g needle and you are paul bunyaning that thing in you.
    They're actually done in the field by paramedics if we can't get IV access. But it requires a drill or a thick metal catheter needle (I think it's a 14g) that is forcefully jammed and twisted into the bone (generally the shin right below the knee). You aren't going to jam a needle into bone by accident

    IDK that IO (intraosseous) lines are done much in-hospital, since ER docs generally go for a jugular vein in a pinch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bonaparte View Post
    They're actually done in the field by paramedics if we can't get IV access. But it requires a drill or a thick metal catheter needle (I think it's a 14g) that is forcefully jammed and twisted into the bone (generally the shin right below the knee). You aren't going to jam a needle into bone by accident
    I seen that on a medical prgram bonaparte the doc could not get a vein the person was in a crash anyway he used a drill on the shin like you said then injected water in it then the morphine.

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    Depending on the type of IO it's either on the face of the tibia or smack dab in the Sternum

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    yup the military and the EMS workers carry this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bonaparte View Post

    IDK that IO (intraosseous) lines are done much in-hospital, since ER docs generally go for a jugular vein in a pinch.
    hospitals in my area used to do this
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    Quote Originally Posted by roidneedles View Post
    Guys, i pinned earlier today and I shoot my glutes a lot.. I wanted to hit a different spot then usual so I moved closer to my hip, I usually hit the middle
    Of the glute. So I jabbed her in and shot, after I started rubbing it and realized I shot almost in my ****ing hip!! It's where my glute ties into my hammy.. And if I dig I can feel
    Bone there!! And four hours later it's sore as ****! Did I hit bone boys!? If so am I in trouble? Is that bad? Thanks
    Lesson learned. Dont inject there again Your fine my friend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AD View Post
    hospitals in my area used to do this
    Venous cutdown - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    Yikes. How recently?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bonaparte View Post
    Yikes. How recently?
    actually i havent seen it myself, but its been taught, maybe 10yrs ago

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bonaparte View Post
    They're actually done in the field by paramedics if we can't get IV access. But it requires a drill or a thick metal catheter needle (I think it's a 14g) that is forcefully jammed and twisted into the bone (generally the shin right below the knee). You aren't going to jam a needle into bone by accident

    IDK that IO (intraosseous) lines are done much in-hospital, since ER docs generally go for a jugular vein in a pinch.
    I have done this before, and this on the other hand hurts like hell from the reactions I have gotten.

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    I will remember for the rest of my life the sound and feeling of needles digging really hard on my skull when they did some anaethetic lock on my forehead before screwing on some creepy Saw like device on my head before they drilled a hole in my head for a brain biopsy. Not my fondest of memories! Just thought I'd share that for fun if any of you have the pleasure in the future lol

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    Damn this thread blew up lol but I injected where the outer quad meets the glute damn near lol its fine now I guess I was being paranoid

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    Quote Originally Posted by RangerDanger830 View Post
    I have done this before, and this on the other hand hurts like hell from the reactions I have gotten.
    ...It's normally only done on unresponsive patients in cardiac arrest (or ones so close to death that they don't care). Do the Rangers just do this in the field since they don't have time to fish for an IV line?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bonaparte View Post
    ...It's normally only done on unresponsive patients in cardiac arrest (or ones so close to death that they don't care). Do the Rangers just do this in the field since they don't have time to fish for an IV line?
    Its called intraosseus infusion and I have never seen or heard of it done in the field, mainly because we were always close to actually medical facilities. But in the AFG I had to do it once to a guy who lost both legs, and the rest of his body was chewed the hell up so my medic told me what to do and I did it. He was my gunner in a hmmwv and we hit an IED. There was no way with all of the blood and chewed up flesh that we had time to find a vein, much less getting him to sit still enough to let us. But no worries now, he is alive and has functional prosthetics, even runs and hikes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RangerDanger830 View Post
    Its called intraosseus infusion and I have never seen or heard of it done in the field, mainly because we were always close to actually medical facilities. But in the AFG I had to do it once to a guy who lost both legs, and the rest of his body was chewed the hell up so my medic told me what to do and I did it. He was my gunner in a hmmwv and we hit an IED. There was no way with all of the blood and chewed up flesh that we had time to find a vein, much less getting him to sit still enough to let us. But no worries now, he is alive and has functional prosthetics, even runs and hikes.
    We use it in the field whenever IV access is necessary but unobtainable. Typically decompensated shock and unable to get an IV into the AC. We had a young girl in Diabetic Keto Acidosis not so long ago, IO was the only option. It's used a fair amount in hypovolemic trauma patients in the field as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigshotvictoria View Post
    We use it in the field whenever IV access is necessary but unobtainable. Typically decompensated shock and unable to get an IV into the AC. We had a young girl in Diabetic Keto Acidosis not so long ago, IO was the only option. It's used a fair amount in hypovolemic trauma patients in the field as well.
    The one I did was in the sternum, I have only seen them done in the sternum personally. I know it hurts bad enough for a guy who just lost two legs to complain about it more than his legs, granted they were in shock but you get the idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigshotvictoria View Post
    We use it in the field whenever IV access is necessary but unobtainable. Typically decompensated shock and unable to get an IV into the AC. We had a young girl in Diabetic Keto Acidosis not so long ago, IO was the only option. It's used a fair amount in hypovolemic trauma patients in the field as well.
    Did you do a lidocaine local first (or any other form of anesthesia), or was she sufficiently gone that she didn't need it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bonaparte View Post
    Did you do a lidocaine local first (or any other form of anesthesia), or was she sufficiently gone that she didn't need it?

    Lidocaine isn't part of the protocol. There isn't really a situation that would require an IO where taking time for a local is justified pre-hospital in my experience.

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