Caber Sides.

**Lipid** · 03-24-2014, 07:42 PM

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**< <Samson> >** · 03-24-2014, 07:56 PM

I have been on caber for a long time now. Only side I have had is makes it very hard to nut.

No other sides at all

**kelkel** · 03-24-2014, 08:19 PM

Originally Posted by Lipid

Started my tren /test cycle 2 days ago, running 200mg Test E/week and 50mg Tren ace a day.

This is my first time running tren.

Also running caber @ 0.25mg x2 Week and aromasin 12.5mg ED (trying to combat some gyno i have on left nipple)

After my first injection on monday and taking my ancillaries, 12 hours post i started to get stomach pains, and still do have some abdominal and stomach pains. Ive read that this is a side effect from caber? Should i drop the caber or will my body adjust and i should just grind it out.

I saw Austinite say that stomach irritability is a common issue with caber and it takes a while to adjust.

Are you running an AI? If so, and at such a low dose of test it's really unlikely you even need caber. Put it aside and simply control your E and you'll be just fine.

Originally Posted by < <Samson> >

I have been on caber for a long time now. Only side I have had is makes it very hard to nut.

No other sides at all

Caber is known to heighten a persons sexual experience. It also reduces a person's refractory period and in essence, shortens your turn-around time.

**Lipid** · 03-24-2014, 08:25 PM

Originally Posted by kelkel

Are you running an AI? If so, and at such a low dose of test it's really unlikely you even need caber. Put it aside and simply control your E and you'll be just fine.

Caber is known to heighten a persons sexual experience. It also reduces a person's refractory period and in essence, shortens your turn-around time.

If i was to take my 2nd dose of caber this week then discontinue from week 2 onward how long does caber linger? Might also be crashing my E2 with this AI dose so could be a contributing factor.

**kelkel** · 03-24-2014, 08:35 PM

I didn't even see that your taking aromasin . Yes, you could easily crash it. It's not fun so be careful. It also will not eliminate any existing gyno. It can prevent further damage but if it's already there then you need SERMS, either Raloxifene or Nolvadex to help eradicate it.
Caber's half life is about 60-70 hrs.

**Lipid** · 03-24-2014, 08:43 PM

Originally Posted by kelkel

I didn't even see that your taking aromasin . Yes, you could easily crash it. It's not fun so be careful. It also will not eliminate any existing gyno. It can prevent further damage but if it's already there then you need SERMS, either Raloxifene or Nolvadex to help eradicate it.
Caber's half life is about 60-70 hrs.

Was hesitant to take nolva whilst on tren as it is a prolactin atangonist. Switch from 12.5mg ED to 25mg Monday and Thursday Only? and Drop caber all together?

**SEOINAGE** · 03-24-2014, 10:15 PM

Originally Posted by < <Samson> >

I have been on caber for a long time now. Only side I have had is makes it very hard to nut.

No other sides at all

Opposite for me. Low E2 makes it hard for me to nut, but too much caber will make me last ten seconds, and I am usually one that lasts a really long time, even with normal or high E2.

I'm actually curious with the OP's stomach issues. I have had some serious stomach issues lately when consuming carbs. I think it is T3, but I'm not sure yet, taking a good amount of things, but as I sit here trying to drink my post work out shake my gut is wrenching. I'm taking .25 mg caber once a week.

**kelkel** · 03-25-2014, 07:20 AM

Originally Posted by Lipid

Was hesitant to take nolva whilst on tren as it is a prolactin atangonist. Switch from 12.5mg ED to 25mg Monday and Thursday Only? and Drop caber all together?

There's no worries taking nolva with tren . It's not going to crush your prolactin. The Caber at .25 x 2 per week is already doing that, and that's fine. Many guys I know run low dose Caber year round actually.

Aromasin 's half life is about a day. To me, and in your case you'd be better served with adex which has a much longer half life and you can effectively get by with twice per week dosing on your amount. Caveat is that at only 200mg per week test, and if you're splitting your shots you may only be borderline needing an AI at all if your relatively lean. Only BW mid cycle will tell the tale.

**evander87** · 04-07-2014, 11:15 AM

Originally Posted by SEOINAGE

Opposite for me. Low E2 makes it hard for me to nut, but too much caber will make me last ten seconds, and I am usually one that lasts a really long time, even with normal or high E2.

Caber turned me into a two pup chump. Switched over to prami for this cycle and no problem that many people experience.