New cycle - Your thoughts please

[adz11]

Hi Guys I'm 31years old and 12.5stones I've just started a cycle which consists of the following;

1-12 week test400 1ml per week
1-6 week deca 200 1ml per week
3-9 HCG 5000ui - 500Ui per week

15-19 PCT clomid 100/50/20/20
Nolvadex 40/40/20/20


My question is should i do test400 2ml i.e. twice a week mixed with deca 200? And should i run deca for 12weeks too?

Would it be beneficial to run HCG from week 1 - 9 as I'm getting mixed views on threads.

I took my first jab on monday and test400 mixed with deca 1ml each (2ml) hurt the next day a lot, some people get the painful leg and some don't I've read so is this normal as i jabbed clean with air being pulled out from muscle, plus massaged and heat patch. Is test400 just a harsh oil?

[roadglide83]

Running deca at 200 mg isn't going to do much except maybe make your joints feel better. Would run minimum of 400 mg of deca for at least 12 weeks.

[Bio-Active]

I would run the hcg during the entire cycle right up to pct. How much deca are you planning to run? 200 ew wouldn't do much. were is the ai?

[psychoink]

Isn't HCG supposed to help bring your test levels back to normal.... doesn't taking test supress your natty test so... HCG wouldn't work while on cycle... right.

[Bert]

Split the doses.

[Back In Black]

Height?
Bodyfat %?
Cycle history?

[adz11]

5'11 12% haven't run a cycle for sometime

So you reckon this? How many weeks will i see gains/strength by?

1-12 week test400 1ml per week
1-12 week deca 200 2ml per week
1-12 HCG 5000ui - 500Ui per week

PCT as above

Ai i heard only need when you hit gyno???

[Back In Black]

I think you should spend some time focusing on your diet in all honesty. 5'11 and 175lbs indicates a lack of knowledge and/or application.

Visit our nutrition forum and get some guidance.

In the meantime you can read this

http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-s...rst-cycle.html

[adz11]

yes i did read that but i have started this now, can you advise if i should take 1ml test and 2ml dec a week?

[Back In Black]

I would advise you to stop and get your diet together. At least drop the deca. And make sure you have ALL your ancillaries and are running them accordingly.

Good luck.

[adz11]

thanks buddy got all the stuff, why do you suggest i drop deca? too much for a first cycle or little to be gained from it?

[Back In Black]

thanks buddy got all the stuff, why do you suggest i drop deca? too much for a first cycle or little to be gained from it?

The former.

You should be able to make great gains with test alone. If you don't then your gear is bunk and/or your diet is sub-par.

[adz11]

will deca not aid in anyway or help gain bit more? Don't think the guy gives refunds

[Back In Black]

Put it at the back of your sock drawer, it will keep.

[RangerDanger830]

If he doesn't give refunds then save it for later, it'll last awhile.