Test cyp

**dino13** · 03-29-2014, 06:56 PM

Hey guys,
I just received a 10 week supply of test cyp. I've got PCT covered with clomid, nolva and clen . Now my guy suggested HCG for 10 weeks every 5 days. What do you guys think?

**RangerDanger830** · 03-29-2014, 06:58 PM

Stats?

**dino13** · 03-29-2014, 07:08 PM

I am 37, 6.3' and weigh 210lbs.
Bench press 285, squat 225 and deadlift 285. I've been working out for quite a few years. Never did test cyp before. Mostly pills with no issues whatsoever!

**RangerDanger830** · 03-29-2014, 07:11 PM

How much test you planning on running? I would add an AI like Arimidex , I would recommend around 500iu/week split into two injections. HCG works wonders for recovery when you use it on cycle. I will never cycle without it again.

**RangerDanger830** · 03-29-2014, 07:12 PM

I am also basing this on the assumption your BF% is decent too, forgot to ask that.

**dino13** · 03-29-2014, 07:13 PM

500 test weekly

**RangerDanger830** · 03-29-2014, 07:14 PM

Sounds like a good cycle for you if you throw in the AI and the HCG .

**dino13** · 03-29-2014, 07:23 PM

I don't know if I can get arimidex on time...do you think nolva, clen and clomid is not enough?

**RangerDanger830** · 03-29-2014, 07:26 PM

Clen is not a PCT compound, Clen is a thermogenic for burning fat. The nolva and clomid are good for PCT but an AI is going to prevent estrogen related side effects. It is very risky running without an AI, I would advise against doing any cycle without an AI. You can find Arimidex on the site sponsor, ARR, up in the corner. I think it is called liquidex, someone else might have to chime in there. I am pretty sure they have expedited shipping methods.

**derekkpapa1** · 03-29-2014, 07:26 PM

Clen ? On pct

**Bio-Active** · 03-29-2014, 07:31 PM

You should run your hcg at 250 iu 2 x ew right up to 3 days prior to starting pct

**dino13** · 03-29-2014, 08:14 PM

This is what I was thinking to run:
Week 1 to 10: 500mg of test weekly
Week 1-10: HCG 400iu Every 4 Days
Week 11 - 40mg nolva+ 100mg clomid daily
Week 12 - 30mg nolva+ 50mg clomid daily
Week 13 - 20mg nolva+ 50mg clomid daily
Clenbuterol for PCT

**DrewZ** · 03-29-2014, 09:38 PM

Welcome Dino!

have a read through this post: http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-s...rst-cycle.html

It helped me understand everything a lot better

**lovbyts** · 03-29-2014, 09:58 PM

I STRONGLY suggest waiting until you have an AI on hand. If your E2 goes up your test comes down and gains are minimized. I for one am very E2 sensitive. Mine skyrockets anything over 500 test. I dont get sides though, no gyno, no sensitive nips no lumps, only minimal gains. Dont risk it.

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**Back In Black** · 03-30-2014, 12:32 AM

Originally Posted by dino13

This is what I was thinking to run:
Week 1 to 10: 500mg of test weekly
Week 1-10: HCG 400iu Every 4 Days
Week 11 - 40mg nolva+ 100mg clomid daily
Week 12 - 30mg nolva+ 50mg clomid daily
Week 13 - 20mg nolva+ 50mg clomid daily
Clenbuterol for PCT

Originally Posted by DrewZ

Welcome Dino!

have a read through this post: http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-s...rst-cycle.html

It helped me understand everything a lot better

Yep, read that link!

Your PCT is mistimed, you shouldn't be using clen in PCT, your HCG is not as as recommended in a previous post and you have no AI.

Oh, and a 10 week supply may well last you 9-9 1/2 weeks as opposed to 10. You should get another vial as they may be under filled and accidents do happen.

What is your bodyfat %?

**Back In Black** · 03-30-2014, 12:36 AM

Actually, I just saw you have only been training 8 months and you want to jump on gear already?

Also, what are these 'pills' you have previously taken?

**dino13** · 03-30-2014, 04:44 AM

8 months? How did you come with that? I've been lifting for 4 years now with great gains and a significant body fat drop to 13%. As for pills I did winstrol and turinabol with good results.
The cycle I wrote comes form an experienced user but if you guys have a better one I would gladly consider it. Thank you in advance!

**ghettoboyd** · 03-30-2014, 05:19 AM

I would think your experienced friend would have you wait at least 14 to 18days(cyp) before you start your pct..I doesn't make sense to start before the ester has cleared...I like the hcg ...consider running your pct a fourth week...

**dino13** · 03-30-2014, 05:33 AM

If u had a supply of test cyp, hcg , nolva, Clomid,liquidex how would u run a 10 week cycle? Any space for clenbuterol ?
Thanks

**Back In Black** · 03-30-2014, 06:00 AM

Originally Posted by dino13

If u had a supply of test cyp, hcg , nolva, Clomid,liquidex how would u run a 10 week cycle? Any space for clenbuterol ?
Thanks

The 8 months is what it says in your profile. I guess you haven't updated it ever.

Again

http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-s...rst-cycle.html

Read it and you will easily formulate your own plan.

**kelkel** · 03-30-2014, 09:00 AM

Take the above advice and plan your cycle using the link above. You're friends advice is close but not quite on point. Don't think anyone has said it directly but your cycle should be at least 12 weeks for a long ester test.

**Cuz** · 03-30-2014, 09:01 AM

Clen for pct?

**dino13** · 03-30-2014, 02:51 PM

That was a very helpful link.
To sum it up:
1-12 test cyp 500 weekly
1-12 hcg 250ui every 3 days
1-14 arimidex
14-17 40mg nolva+ 100mg clomid daily
30mg nolva+ 50mg clomid daily
20mg nolva+ 50mg clomid daily

**Bio-Active** · 03-30-2014, 02:52 PM

Originally Posted by dino13

That was a very helpful link.
To sum it up:
1-12 test cyp 500 weekly
1-12 hcg 250ui every 3 days
1-14 arimidex
14-17 40mg nolva+ 100mg clomid daily
30mg nolva+ 50mg clomid daily
20mg nolva+ 50mg clomid daily

Looks close how much adex are you running ED?

**dino13** · 03-30-2014, 02:55 PM

0.25 eod

**kelkel** · 03-30-2014, 05:13 PM

Run your hcg until about 3 days before pct (serms)

**RangerDanger830** · 03-30-2014, 06:43 PM

Looks like you are good to go if you take all of the advice given, I didn't see any bad recommendations. Throw a log up in the results section if you have time. AI dose seems fine.

**dino13** · 03-31-2014, 04:15 PM

I will. Thanks for your input guys!

**Ashop** · 03-31-2014, 09:01 PM

Originally Posted by RangerDanger830

Clen is not a PCT compound, Clen is a thermogenic for burning fat. The nolva and clomid are good for PCT but an AI is going to prevent estrogen related side effects. It is very risky running without an AI, I would advise against doing any cycle without an AI. You can find Arimidex on the site sponsor, ARR, up in the corner. I think it is called liquidex, someone else might have to chime in there. I am pretty sure they have expedited shipping methods.

CLEN has a mild anti catabolic effect as well as fat burning and is not a traditional part of PCT
but were seeing it and doing it often these days with success.