Aromatizing tren?

[boz]

Hello all.

Coming to the end of my cycle 300mg teste/300mg tren e (i also chucked 5mg dbol tabs about 20 - 30mg a day mid through cycle, yes that could of been culprit to increase e2, stop that though before BW). The last time i ran tren my e2 was way to high. This time around im getting the exact problem, i was always under the impression there is no possible way for tren to aromatize, but my BW came back the worst ever it has been more the 5 x higher than usual. Im now taking letro my e2 is that bad, 2.5mg ED for the next 2 weeks until the tren is out of my system, than i will cruise on 150mg test e.

Atm im experience no motivation, im lethargic, no sex drive, i dont feel like eating, ED problems, and i know its legit tren every time i eat i sweat balls, ive also had women problems recently we went our seperate ways, i know im experiencing depression from that atm, but i can still push through that with a workout. I go into the gym and its like i dont even want to be there.

My usual AI protocol is 12.5mg a day, i may have to up it 25mg ED when i cycle now.

Is it really possible for tren to aromatize because the last time i ran it, as soon as tren was out of my system my e2 came back within the ranges?

[< <Samson> >]

Sounds just like me

I am sucking down Letro right now. My nips got itchy at the end, tren for a long time seems to be a killer. I was also on tren e, never had problems with ace

But, the tren sure does well - specially over the long range of time. But, the sides are just not cool

[boz]

Sounds just like me

I am sucking down Letro right now. My nips got itchy at the end, tren for a long time seems to be a killer. I was also on tren e, never had problems with ace

But, the tren sure does well - specially over the long range of time. But, the sides are just not cool

This is not on, i truly am confused about it, is your sides high e2 related also? This never used to occur, when in my early days of starting out with tren e.

[< <Samson> >]

It has to be e related - since I started the anti e meds, I'm good


I didn't get blood work, I just jumped right on letro

[Bio-Active]

This is not on, i truly am confused about it, is your sides high e2 related also? This never used to occur, when in my early days of starting out with tren e.

Are you experiencing the sides with elevated e or are the labs just showing it? What were your t levels?

[Lunk1]

Your tren was likely made from pellets containing estrogen.

[boz]

Are you experiencing the sides with elevated e or are the labs just showing it? What were your t levels?

Well the symptons im experiencing are:

Lazy/lethargic
No motivation, even when im at the gym
my appetite is bad, my early days of tren i understand tren can suppress but its nothing like im experiencing now.
feel weak
my junk feels like its dead

t levels were 49.8 ranges are (1 - 32)

[boz]

Your tren was likely made from pellets containing estrogen.

I really disagree this lab is one of the most reputable UGL labs in oz.

[redz]

All ugls go from good to crap over time. It's a sad reality.

[boz]

Maybe im way over my head here, and alot of the 'gurus' are shaking there head at this post, but where are all the 'knowledgeable responses'

Not one post has been informative to me.

[Bio-Active]

Maybe im way over my head here, and alot of the 'gurus' are shaking there head at this post, but where are all the 'knowledgeable responses' Not one post has been informative to me.

what are you looking for as far as a response goes? If your estrogen is high you need to manage either with your AI or lowering your test dose

[boz]

what are you looking for as far as a response goes? If your estrogen is high you need to manage either with your AI or lowering your test dose

All good. All i know is the last time i came off tren e cause this has been a re occurrence, my e2 come straight back to normal levels, and it confuses the hell out of me cause i know my AI has nothing whatsoever to do with mitigating 19-nor side effects from Tren, cause tren does not aromtaise. Anyway im going to come off the tren, get BW done again in 4 - 6 weeks see where i stand and go from there.

[Bio-Active]

All good. All i know is the last time i came off tren e cause this has been a re occurrence, my e2 come straight back to normal levels, and it confuses the hell out of me cause i know my AI has nothing whatsoever to do with mitigating 19-nor side effects from Tren, cause tren does not aromtaise. Anyway im going to come off the tren, get BW done again in 4 - 6 weeks see where i stand and go from there.

tren is known to cause elevated estrogen combined with test. This us why so many people have chosen to run higher Tren and lower test cycles. Either way you still must manage your estrogen and keep it in a good range otherwise you will get the side effect that you are experiencing

[carbo]

Are you managing your prolactin somehow?

[Lunk1]

Estrogen can increase due to a large number of influences. Without testing your tren and knowing everything you do and eat, it's hard to tack down the cause of elevated levels.

300 mg of test is enough to cause higher E2 levels and without knowing your before, during and after blood work it's all a guessing game.

You ASSUME the test is not estrogen laced, you ASSUME the E2 level is not related to your test dose (I was over 300 on 200mg of test C). You wanna find out? have your tren tested, run it with no test and then do bloodwork. Otherwise just take measures to control your E2.