Regarding Test E only cycle and AI

[Shamrock112]

I'm researching for my 2nd cycle and wanted to get some feedback. I plan on doing another Test E cycle, 500mg week, for 16 weeks. I plan on starting my AI on my 3rd week, taking .25 per day (which from what I've read means chopping the pill into 4 pieces).

Weeks 1 - 15 Test E 500mg week
Weeks 3 - 15 AI .25 per day
Weeks 16 - 20 Toremifene 120/90/60/60/30


I used Torem on my last cycle by itself and it brought my boys back up in 3-4 weeks. Admittedly, my first cycle was horrible due to my lack of research and reliance on the advice of my trainer alone, so even though this is again a Test E only cycle I want to make sure I plan correctly.

[Bio-Active]

What is the AI you are running aromasin ? Why are you not running hcg during your cycle? I would add another serm to your pct either clomid or tamox

[Shamrock112]

AI is Anastrozole.
Was under the impression running hcg was not needed during Test E only, but can get some. Can I start running that at week 3 along with the AI?
I have clomid on hand so I can run that alongside Torem

Thanks

[NoBulkNoCutJustGrow]

I'm researching for my 2nd cycle and wanted to get some feedback. I plan on doing another Test E cycle, 500mg week, for 16 weeks. I plan on starting my AI on my 3rd week, taking .25 per day (which from what I've read means chopping the pill into 4 pieces).

Weeks 1 - 15 Test E 500mg week
Weeks 3 - 15 AI .25 per day
Weeks 16 - 20 Toremifene 120/90/60/60/30


I used Torem on my last cycle by itself and it brought my boys back up in 3-4 weeks. Admittedly, my first cycle was horrible due to my lack of research and reliance on the advice of my trainer alone, so even though this is again a Test E only cycle I want to make sure I plan correctly.

Which AI arimidex ? If so be careful; arimidex is not a suicidal inhibitor and might cause a rebound jump in estrogen when discontinuing use.IMO you would be safer going with a suicidal inhibitor like exemestane which doesn't allow for rebound spikes in estrogen. In any case I would start the AI form day 1 but that's just me. For PCT I'd go with a proven compound like Nolva (tamoxifen ); 40/40/20/20 or clomid or both. Good luck bro.

[Bio-Active]

AI is Anastrozole.
Was under the impression running hcg was not needed during Test E only, but can get some. Can I start running that at week 3 along with the AI?
I have clomid on hand so I can run that alongside Torem

Thanks

Running a test cycle is exactly why you would want to run hcg alongside to maintain some testicular function

[psychoink]

I have heard HCG should be more of a PCT... HCG increases natty test levels... synthetic test shuts down your natty levels. ... I guess it wouldn't hurt just seems counter productive...

[altered genetics]

I have heard HCG should be more of a PCT... HCG increases natty test levels... synthetic test shuts down your natty levels. ... I guess it wouldn't hurt just seems counter productive...

No hcg will keep your nuts working on cycle... It will halt your recovery if used for pct.

[MuscleInk]

I have heard HCG should be more of a PCT... HCG increases natty test levels... synthetic test shuts down your natty levels. ... I guess it wouldn't hurt just seems counter productive...

Incorrect. HCG will prevent leydig cells from atrophying. As long as there is a synthetic testosterone , the negative feedback will inhibit endogenous production. Use HCG on cycle. As a PCT you can suppress recovery in some cases.

[MuscleInk]

Which AI arimidex? If so be careful; arimidex is not a suicidal inhibitor and might cause a rebound jump in estrogen when discontinuing use.IMO you would be safer going with a suicidal inhibitor like exemestane which doesn't allow for rebound spikes in estrogen. In any case I would start the AI form day 1 but that's just me. For PCT I'd go with a proven compound like Nolva (tamoxifen); 40/40/20/20 or clomid or both. Good luck bro.

Not entirely correct. Proper dosing of Arimidex will not cause a rebound.

Use both clomid and nolva for PCT. The former promotes spermatogenesis.

[Shamrock112]

Thanks for all the input. I have to but the brakes on starting my cycle for abit, having some trouble finding hcg , but other then that I have everything I need. I found liquid exemestane which I might swap for Arimidex .

[NoBulkNoCutJustGrow]

Not entirely correct. Proper dosing of Arimidex will not cause a rebound.

Use both clomid and nolva for PCT. The former promotes spermatogenesis.

You are correct, proper dosing will not cause rebound but improper dosing might; it is possible with this AI if handled incorrectly.

[jngymrat]

So for the record, how would he know if he is dosing correctly with Arimidex . What protocol for dosing would you recommend? and what would be the symptoms for a rebound if it were to occur? Just curious.

[Back In Black]

Whoa fella. You just finished PCT after a 6 MONTH cycle. Last thing you want to be thinking about is another cycle mate.

[MuscleInk]

You are correct, proper dosing will not cause rebound but improper dosing might; it is possible with this AI if handled incorrectly.

Well ya, improper dosing of anything can cause issues. Lol

[Shamrock112]

Whoa fella. You just finished PCT after a 6 MONTH cycle. Last thing you want to be thinking about is another cycle mate.

Just researching for now. I know the generally accepted time to wait is Time on + PCT = Time off, but if you do Test only, and your blood work comes back good, do you really have to wait that long? Just curious, but yeah I don't plan on running this for a few months