First Cycle, Help with HCG & PCT (TEST E only)

**deanziL** · 04-18-2014, 08:44 PM

So doing a 12 week cycle, Test E.

1-12 Testosterone Enanthate 500mg. (Pinned Mon & Thu, 250mg each shot)

Armidex through cycle, 0.5mg EOD.

Now, for HCG . I've heard alot of different doses etc, and when to take it.
Would 500iu per week, pinned twice weekly at 250iu each shot, be fine ? (Weeks 2-12)

And PCT, iv got starting 14 days after last Test injection, so weeks 14-18.
Nolvadex : 40mg/40mg/20mg/20mg
&
Clomid: 50mg/50mg/50mg/50mg

Thnx

**Schwarzenegger** · 04-18-2014, 10:05 PM

I had typed out a thorough post to ur questions and then i saw ur age on ur profile.

def should not be doing steroids at 18. U already got high testosterone floating around. If you're not growing then you're doing something wrong.

At the end u prolly not gonna listen and will end up shutdown and limp dick. I wouldn't take that risk,, would u?

**deanziL** · 04-20-2014, 01:22 PM

I'm 19 going on twenty. Genuine question, does it really matter about age? Wont the Sides be the same whether I'm 19 or 29? And, is the hcg timing correct on my cycle, weeks 2-12? Also, why up the clomid to 100 for first two weeks

**VegasBody** · 04-20-2014, 01:31 PM

I think it looks good but u might want to check

**VegasBody** · 04-20-2014, 01:31 PM

Test e u might need to start pct earlier?

**VegasBody** · 04-20-2014, 01:32 PM

Did u do blood test bfr mid after??

**AsEpSiS** · 04-20-2014, 05:42 PM

Hey man. At your age, using steroids really can put you in a high risk category to develop erectile issues and hardcore acne post cycle. Also, shutting down your HPTA at a young age could lead to hormonal issues in the future.

You have to remember, when you use roids and shut yourself down, it's not 100% guaranteed that you'll recover production of your natural testosterone .

Also, if you can't put on muscle at 20yrs old.....steroids won't help.

**Bio-Active** · 04-20-2014, 07:16 PM

Originally Posted by AsEpSiS

Hey man. At your age, using steroids really can put you in a high risk category to develop erectile issues and hardcore acne post cycle. Also, shutting down your HPTA at a young age could lead to hormonal issues in the future. You have to remember, when you use roids and shut yourself down, it's not 100% guaranteed that you'll recover production of your natural testosterone. Also, if you can't put on muscle at 20yrs old.....steroids won't help.

*^^^ this.... You have done your homework but really at your age most of will agree that you can still put on a ton of muscle natty with the right nutrition plan. If you run gear now you will probably be robbing yourself of gains down the road. If your nutrition and training are up to par you could gain for several years before hitting your natural limit and then cycling will take you to the next level if you decide to do so.

**VegasBody** · 04-20-2014, 10:04 PM

I think he know all that and hes way too deep into it so its too late to school him lets help him so he gets out clean and maybe he think twice next time

**lovbyts** · 04-20-2014, 11:22 PM

Start by reading this. I'm sure you wont agree with it because you are young, it's about you and they typical mentality that goes with it of how you are different so it doesn't apply to you making it exactly about you.

The young and Steroids

Originally Posted by VegasBody

I think he know all that and hes way too deep into it so its too late to school him lets help him so he gets out clean and maybe he think twice next time

Why is it to late? It's never to late even 1/2 way through a cycle. Minimize the damage or stop it before any occurs if all possible.

**deanziL** · 04-28-2014, 05:01 PM

Originally Posted by lovbyts

Start by reading this. I'm sure you wont agree with it because you are young, it's about you and they typical mentality that goes with it of how you are different so it doesn't apply to you making it exactly about you.

Why is it to late? It's never to late even 1/2 way through a cycle. Minimize the damage or stop it before any occurs if all possible.

Iv pinned once, which was today. Injection was fine, no problems at all but now I feel as If I shouldn't have done it... Would it make any difference if I didn't pin again and started Pct in two weeks or would it be worthwhile finishing the cycle?

**derekkpapa1** · 04-28-2014, 07:12 PM

If you only pinned once you don't need pct
Do some more research learn about all the sides and risks because they are real and make sure that's something you want to chance especially at your age

**deanziL** · 04-29-2014, 02:14 AM

Originally Posted by Derekjpapa

If you only pinned once you don't need pct
Do some more research learn about all the sides and risks because they are real and make sure that's something you want to chance especially at your age

I have and that's the reason I don't really want to go through with the cycle. Would I need to ai for the next two weeks?