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04-20-2014, 04:29 AM #1Senior Member
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Can I freeze HCG once reconstructed?
Hi everyone!!
I'm about to start my cycle, but sometimes I'm more stupid than a donkey, and bought 2 pregnyl 5000 UI HCG .
So basically the problems are 2:
1. It comes in amps, so I don't have any steril empty vial
2. even If I had an empty vial, my cycle will go 4 months + PCT so 2 amps pregnyl won't survive all that time
My Idea was to precharge the first amp in multiple syringes (with bac water) and freeze them.
I did that for the IGF-1 and it worked.
Will HCG survive the freezing process??
Thanks!!
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04-20-2014, 04:48 AM #2
Interesting idea, and I'd like to know too. But, why reconstitute both amps at once?
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04-20-2014, 07:04 AM #3Senior Member
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04-20-2014, 07:44 AM #4
You want to freeze them in the syringes? ???
Stop trying to be creative. Just use one and keep the other in the refrigerator un mixed
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so what do you suggest? fill 1ml syringe with the 5000UI and go taking from there for 2-3months??? Afaik HCG has a life of 30 days. so I'll never get it through with 2 amps of pregnyl even if its 5000 UI. any other Ideas? in other forums, they say HCG can be frozen once recon. my problem is I have to find a solution for that, because I can't buy more hcg.
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04-20-2014, 08:17 AM #6
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One 5000 U should last you 10 weeks. So you have 20 weeks worth of HCG . Only mix one at a time and pull the rest into individual pins. You can put some of the individual pins in the freezer.
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04-20-2014, 08:33 AM #7Senior Member
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04-20-2014, 08:44 AM #8
There's rarely ever a need to freeze hCG . Regardless of your reasoning, I don't recommend freezing, ever.
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04-20-2014, 08:54 AM #9
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I would listen to austinite over myself on freezing. He knows more about it than I do.
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04-20-2014, 09:35 AM #10
LA while back, a very knowledgable member posted the lab results of an hcg storage/potency study. I believe that he had conducted it himself...
From what I remember, it was much longer than 30 days. Even un-refrigerated, it lasted longer than that, with only a small drop in potency...
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04-20-2014, 10:52 AM #11
I recall that post Red Bastard is referencing. hCG doesn't magically turn to nothing at the 30 day mark. Instead, it begins to degrade and from what I recall, not all that fast. It should last you out to 10 weeks.
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aha, I know it doesn't loose potency from a day to another, but it degrades. It seems that after 30 days, potency is so bad that it doesn't guarantee any results anymore. therefore the Idea of freezing. IGF-1 survives freezing very well. wonder If someone has some results about hcg .
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04-20-2014, 01:48 PM #14
Completely untrue. hCG is potent for several months.
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Don't know what to do, some say it dies after 30 days, other say it lives longer. I think the best solution is to find out if freezing will conserve the hormone without killing it.
my hcg sceduling is:
May: no hcg
june-July: start hcg 250UI E3D (2x week)
August: the rest of the first amp + start the new amp.
PCT: 500UI E3D x 2 weeks
you see, the first amp will have to survive more than 60 days. fuuuck how can I organize it?
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04-20-2014, 02:43 PM #17
What are you talking about? This is not debatable. It's already been proven. Wasting your time...
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ok thanks, so I'll precharge the first amp and put it into the fridge. I'll follow my schedule hoping the hcg won't die.
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04-20-2014, 09:10 PM #19
PS.
In the mean time use some of your time online but buy from one of the 1000s of sites to buy some small sterile vials for future use.
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04-21-2014, 05:49 AM #21
Amazon, ebay along with 100s of peptide sites or to make it more simply for you, upper right hand corner ar-r 10mL Sealed Sterile Vial
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04-21-2014, 11:43 AM #22
Prior planning prevents piss poor performance, should have gotten some 1500iu amps. I wouldn't freeze it, the drop in potency will be negligible.
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04-21-2014, 04:08 PM #23Senior Member
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What a mess, everyone says something else...
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04-21-2014, 07:09 PM #24
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04-21-2014, 07:50 PM #25Originally Posted by RangerDanger830
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04-22-2014, 03:25 AM #28Senior Member
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but austinite is a girl... do girls actually use hcg ???
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04-22-2014, 03:40 AM #29
Why do you think HCG exists?
NO SOURCES GIVEN
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Last edited by clarky.; 04-22-2014 at 04:25 AM.
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04-22-2014, 04:59 AM #31
No he wanted to eat cadavers to get HGH, not HCG so he was at least going in the right direction more or less.
If he wanted HCG he could probably pay some homeless pregnant woman to piss in his mouth. OMG I probably just gave him a new idea.Last edited by lovbyts; 04-22-2014 at 08:31 AM.
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Listen to austinite. He knows what he is talking about. Spoke with a compounding PharmD yesterday and he says that good HCG will been good for 60 day at a min. at full strength if reconstituted correctly and kept in the refrigerator. Then it will slowly start to lose it potency
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