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Thread: Can I freeze HCG once reconstructed?

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    Can I freeze HCG once reconstructed?

    Hi everyone!!
    I'm about to start my cycle, but sometimes I'm more stupid than a donkey, and bought 2 pregnyl 5000 UI HCG .
    So basically the problems are 2:
    1. It comes in amps, so I don't have any steril empty vial
    2. even If I had an empty vial, my cycle will go 4 months + PCT so 2 amps pregnyl won't survive all that time

    My Idea was to precharge the first amp in multiple syringes (with bac water) and freeze them.
    I did that for the IGF-1 and it worked.
    Will HCG survive the freezing process??
    Thanks!!

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    Interesting idea, and I'd like to know too. But, why reconstitute both amps at once?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jdc91gt View Post
    Interesting idea, and I'd like to know too. But, why reconstitute both amps at once?
    nono, I don't want to reconstruct both at once.

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    You want to freeze them in the syringes? ???

    Stop trying to be creative. Just use one and keep the other in the refrigerator un mixed

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    Quote Originally Posted by lovbyts View Post
    You want to freeze them in the syringes? ???

    Stop trying to be creative. Just use one and keep the other in the refrigerator un mixed
    so what do you suggest? fill 1ml syringe with the 5000UI and go taking from there for 2-3months??? Afaik HCG has a life of 30 days. so I'll never get it through with 2 amps of pregnyl even if its 5000 UI. any other Ideas? in other forums, they say HCG can be frozen once recon. my problem is I have to find a solution for that, because I can't buy more hcg.

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    One 5000 U should last you 10 weeks. So you have 20 weeks worth of HCG . Only mix one at a time and pull the rest into individual pins. You can put some of the individual pins in the freezer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigTahl View Post
    One 5000 U should last you 10 weeks. So you have 20 weeks worth of HCG. Only mix one at a time and pull the rest into individual pins. You can put some of the individual pins in the freezer.
    ok thanks, I'll do it like that! the first 20-30 days in fridge precharged, and the rest in freezer precharged

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    There's rarely ever a need to freeze hCG . Regardless of your reasoning, I don't recommend freezing, ever.
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    I would listen to austinite over myself on freezing. He knows more about it than I do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by XxAndreaxX View Post
    Afaik HCG has a life of 30 days....
    A while back, a very knowledgable member posted the lab results of an hcg storage/potency study. I believe that he had conducted it himself...

    From what I remember, it was much longer than 30 days. Even un-refrigerated, it lasted longer than that, with only a small drop in potency...

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    I recall that post Red Bastard is referencing. hCG doesn't magically turn to nothing at the 30 day mark. Instead, it begins to degrade and from what I recall, not all that fast. It should last you out to 10 weeks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Red Bastard View Post
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    A while back, a very knowledgable member posted the lab results of an hcg storage/potency study. I believe that he had conducted it himself...

    From what I remember, it was much longer than 30 days. Even un-refrigerated, it lasted longer than that, with only a small drop in potency...
    It's half life is much less than 30days. You're thinking of the time it takes to lose potency once reconstituted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Docd187123 View Post
    It's half life is much less than 30days. You're thinking of the time it takes to lose potency once reconstituted.
    aha, I know it doesn't loose potency from a day to another, but it degrades. It seems that after 30 days, potency is so bad that it doesn't guarantee any results anymore. therefore the Idea of freezing. IGF-1 survives freezing very well. wonder If someone has some results about hcg .

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    Quote Originally Posted by XxAndreaxX View Post
    aha, I know it doesn't loose potency from a day to another, but it degrades. It seems that after 30 days, potency is so bad that it doesn't guarantee any results anymore. therefore the Idea of freezing. IGF-1 survives freezing very well. wonder If someone has some results about hcg.
    Completely untrue. hCG is potent for several months.
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    Quote Originally Posted by XxAndreaxX View Post
    aha, I know it doesn't loose potency from a day to another, but it degrades. It seems that after 30 days, potency is so bad that it doesn't guarantee any results anymore. therefore the Idea of freezing. IGF-1 survives freezing very well. wonder If someone has some results about hcg.
    See below:

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    Completely untrue. hCG is potent for several months.

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    Quote Originally Posted by austinite View Post
    Completely untrue. hCG is potent for several months.
    Don't know what to do, some say it dies after 30 days, other say it lives longer. I think the best solution is to find out if freezing will conserve the hormone without killing it.

    my hcg sceduling is:
    May: no hcg
    june-July: start hcg 250UI E3D (2x week)
    August: the rest of the first amp + start the new amp.
    PCT: 500UI E3D x 2 weeks

    you see, the first amp will have to survive more than 60 days. fuuuck how can I organize it?

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    What are you talking about? This is not debatable. It's already been proven. Wasting your time...
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    ok thanks, so I'll precharge the first amp and put it into the fridge. I'll follow my schedule hoping the hcg won't die.

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    PS.

    In the mean time use some of your time online but buy from one of the 1000s of sites to buy some small sterile vials for future use.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lovbyts View Post
    PS.

    In the mean time use some of your time online but buy from one of the 1000s of sites to buy some small sterile vials for future use.
    can you tell me where to buy??
    don't want to spend 20$ for shipping 1$ vial

    and anyways, I think its kept more sterile in precharged pins, than in a vial, where I suck a few drops E3D

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    Quote Originally Posted by XxAndreaxX View Post
    can you tell me where to buy??
    don't want to spend 20$ for shipping 1$ vial

    and anyways, I think its kept more sterile in precharged pins, than in a vial, where I suck a few drops E3D
    Amazon, ebay along with 100s of peptide sites or to make it more simply for you, upper right hand corner ar-r 10mL Sealed Sterile Vial

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    Prior planning prevents piss poor performance, should have gotten some 1500iu amps. I wouldn't freeze it, the drop in potency will be negligible.

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    What a mess, everyone says something else...

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    Quote Originally Posted by XxAndreaxX View Post
    What a mess, everyone says something else...
    Listen to Austinite on this one, disregard what anyone else says.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RangerDanger830
    Listen to Austinite on this one, disregard what anyone else says.
    You can pretty much just follow this rule for everything

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    Quote Originally Posted by mod1-4 View Post
    You can pretty much just follow this rule for everything
    Whoa whoa whoa, let's try to keep his ego within our atmosphere here lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Docd187123 View Post
    It's half life is much less than 30days. You're thinking of the time it takes to lose potency once reconstituted.
    I knew that he was misusing the term "half life", as it was diminishing potency that he was discussing.
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    but austinite is a girl... do girls actually use hcg ???

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    Quote Originally Posted by XxAndreaxX View Post
    but austinite is a girl... do girls actually use hcg???
    Why do you think HCG exists?
    NO SOURCES GIVEN

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    Quote Originally Posted by XxAndreaxX View Post
    but austinite is a girl... do girls actually use hcg???
    Bahahaha i'm a fish look ^^^^ ffs. no no they just piss it away down the pan when pregnant to piss us men off.
    Quote Originally Posted by Back In Black View Post
    Why do you think HCG exists?
    Lol and he was the person that was getting it from dead pregnant woman i think the cvnts loopy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by clarky. View Post
    Bahahaha i'm a fish look ^^^^ ffs. no no they just piss it away down the pan when pregnant to piss us men off.


    Lol and he was the person that was getting it from dead pregnant woman i think the cvnts loopy.
    No he wanted to eat cadavers to get HGH, not HCG so he was at least going in the right direction more or less.

    If he wanted HCG he could probably pay some homeless pregnant woman to piss in his mouth. OMG I probably just gave him a new idea.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lovbyts View Post
    Ho he wanted to eat cadavers to get HGH, not HCG so he was at least going in the right direction more or less.

    If he wanted HCG he could probably pay some homeless pregnant woman to piss in his mouth. OMG I probably just gave him a new idea.
    Bahaha i bet you have LB
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    Quote Originally Posted by austinite View Post
    Completely untrue. hCG is potent for several months.
    Listen to austinite. He knows what he is talking about. Spoke with a compounding PharmD yesterday and he says that good HCG will been good for 60 day at a min. at full strength if reconstituted correctly and kept in the refrigerator. Then it will slowly start to lose it potency

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigTahl View Post
    Listen to austinite. He knows what he is talking about. Spoke with a compounding PharmD yesterday and he says that good HCG will been good for 60 day at a min. at full strength if reconstituted correctly and kept in the refrigerator. Then it will slowly start to lose it potency
    thanks bro!!!

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