What would you change?

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[ripped4fsu]

if you train hard and eat right you should get some nice gains from that cycle. if you're looking to bulk, maybe next time throw in some deca or EQ, and start off with 4wks of D-bol.

[956Vette]

Looks like you did your homework before your first

[OGPackin]

Originally posted by Nocturnal59
Hello everybody,

I am on my second week of my cycle right now and was just wondering what you would change if you had my stats and it was your first cycle? All of my research has led me in this direction, but I would like to hear some opionins on what you would keep and change in this cycle? I am looking to bulk up to about 215-225 and the get cut up and harden at the end of the cycle.

Here are my stats:
22 years old
5'11
205
not sure of bf(but not too much)

Here is my cycle
Week 1-10 500mg Sust/week EOD
Week 8-13 50mg ED
Week 13-15 300/100/50 Clomid
Nolvedax on hand (just incase)

Thanks Guys!

One question? U have down 500mgs sust/week eod. Is that 500mgs per week or 500mgs eod? Im pretty sure u mean 500mgs per week not 500mgs eod, right?

OG

[motoxxxguy]

Don't change it up after you start your cycle. If you've done the proper research, which it seems you have, you have come up with a cycle that should work out pretty good for you. There is no need to change it now. It's never too early to start planning your next on, though!

-moto

[Billy_Bathgate]

wks 1-15 25mg ARomasin E3D + 10mg Nolva ED + .25mg Dostinex E3D
Week 1-12 250mg Sust E3D (583mg/wk)
Wks 8-15 40mg Var ED OR 50mg Tren ED
Week 16-18 300/100/50 Clomid

600mg rALA ED


IMO that would be the ultimate first cycle.

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[Billy_Bathgate]

Read my reply and you will see how to break it up the best for close to 500mg/wk


250mg EOD is 875

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[Billy_Bathgate]

ok so your doing 125mg EOD then

That averages out to 437.5mg / wk

E3D is fine. People that assume it has to be EOD because prop alone shoudl be, need to rethink how a depot works. Remeber when first injected is the time when the most release will happen. Just because its 4 esters, does not mean its going to have 4 different "stream lines" in the blood plasma. They are going to all have 1 net effect, after all..they are all test. So if you were to plot this ( none of that wanna be mg per days crap), actual plasma concetrations as a function of time, you woudl see that prop alone may cause a little rough blood levels E3D, but with more esters along side, it will stay smooth for the most part, in fact its not really that much more different on paper than EOD. Furthermore, your body isnt going to be able to tell a difference either.

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[Billy_Bathgate]

Its ok like that...but Id do 250 E3D jsut cause its a higher dose