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    skinhead is offline New Member
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    is this enough test for a cycle?

    I have 2 10ml vials of AML test e would this be enough to run to run for 10 - 12 weeks at 400mg a week? Also stacking with winny at 50mg ed but this is the last bit of test my supplier had other than medistar and that stuff is junk.

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    Dosages per ml? Cant tell you anything without that man. Its simple math from there...

    Are you trying to cycle with just test and winny? No AI? No PCT? Do you have any idea what those stand for? You are lacking alot of info needed to give solid advice.

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    I really would reconsider taking steroids at 18yrs old. How long have you been training? what is your weight, height and bf?
    Are you training hard enough?
    whats your diet like?
    do you fully understand what damage you could do at 18years old to your natural test?

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    skinhead is offline New Member
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    Sorry my post wasn't very informative they're standard 250mg vials and i'm using aromasin as an AI and clomid for PCT. I'm 5'8 175 diet and training is on point I play varsity football and am currently being scouted.
    Last edited by skinhead; 04-30-2014 at 07:37 AM.

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    I would listen to what Marcus has to say man. He will steer you in the right direction.

    He is right btw, you are way too young and could really damage your endocrine system.

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    There isn't an exact age were we all stop developing and growing because this is determined by our genes and DNA, we are all genetically programmed individually and we inherit our genes from our parents. To give an exact age we stop growing would be incorrect because everyone's genetic blueprint is different.The main development of our bodies is up to the age of 21yrs of age but this can vary between individuals. There are parts of our bodies what carry on developing and adjusting slowly up until the age of 25yrs old, an example of this is the brain. The Endocrine system is a part of the brain what is very complex and keeps our bodies in a homeostasis state. Our testosterone levels start raising and roughly peak around 25yrs old and then start to slowly decline, so even though some of us may have stopped growing at the age of 21yrs old, others may still be developing up until the age of 25yrs old.

    I have recently spoken to my Endo regarding this matter and he tells me that the HPTA is very sensitive and as many pathways how it regulates the human body, he states steroids disrupt the normal balance of hormones in the body which can cause reversible and irreversible changes at any age but risks are far more if you administrate exogenous androgens during development, this will put you in a very unnatural environment at a crucial time and your hormones should be treated with care especially in the early stages of maturity. The adverse effects can be erratic behaviour of the HPTA and potentially therapy when your older.

    I did ask him what age he would think would be the safest as far as risk to damages and he said many endocrinologist suggest full maturation is reached by 25 years of age and this would also give the HPTA time to be established with your natural hormone balance and patterns. I personally feel 24-25yrs old would also be ideal starting point to get bloodwrok drawn to see exact what your natural levels are before starting any kind of cycles and waiting till you have reach your testosterone peak would be a good starting point, for me there is to much evidence over the forums and what I've seen personally over the last 25yrs I've been bodybuilding. Obviously it isn't going to be all 19- 21yr old bodybuilders who suffer side effects what are irreversible but I am edging on the side of caution what age I advice to the newbies.
    Marcus

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    skinhead is offline New Member
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    ^Ok thanks for the info but I've got my question answered by another member. I don't really have a choice if I want to make it in my sport then I have to juice, (most of the guys on my team have been running superdrol and msten for months) so I thought test would be abit safer.

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    well see ya in the HRT section in a few years....good luck man your gonna need it sounds like.

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