Test P/Tren A flu. Ibuprofen?

**cgi** · 04-30-2014, 07:19 PM

Okay so I'm 6 pins in ( pinning everyday ) and doing my 7th pin tonight. After the third pin of test and tren and I began feeling like crap. Very lethargic, no appetite, no motivation to work out or do anything, foggy head and a bit of dizziness, all I wanted to do was sleep. I'm injecting 50mgs of each compound everyday and taking about 12.5mgs of aromasin everyday. Also taking .25mgs of caber every 3.5 days. I've been taking Ibuprofen since the 4th day at just 200mgs a day and it really helps with the symptoms, but I've heard that prolonged use is harsh on the liver and that it can hinder recovery. Will this pass? I've started to get a tiny bit o night sweats and sweating in general and my cardio I can tell is taking a very small toll day by day. How long until this passes? Will I have to take Ibuprofen everyday while on cycle? Also I am taking 4,000 mgs of vitamin C a day equally spaced out throughout the day and 1200mgs of NAC among many many other things. I appreciate the help.

**Spartans09** · 04-30-2014, 08:06 PM

One possibility-The aromasin could be crashing your estrogen too low. Many are pretty sensitive to aromasin and quite honestly it is way overdosed in my opinion. It makes you feel similar to what you described. Any loss of libido or trouble finishing?

**cgi** · 04-30-2014, 08:11 PM

Not really. In fact I got sick before I even started taking the aromasin .

**David LoPan** · 04-30-2014, 08:51 PM

I personally stay away from Ibuprofen. Tylenol would be better IMO. NSAIDS can hurt your training. NSAIDS reduce inflammation. When you workout your are causing inflammation in your muscles due to tiny tears in your muscle tissue.

Have you thought about pinning every other day? I know that when my test levels were really high I felt like crap. Maybe a someone will jump in and help with your cycle that has more experience that I do. I have not had a problem with test and tren but I like the long esters better. I have only run tren A for a week or two and the sides were a lot stronger than the tren E.

**cgi** · 04-30-2014, 08:56 PM

I heard that pinning tren A ed is best in order to keep hormone levels as stable as possible.

**David LoPan** · 04-30-2014, 09:54 PM

What exactly is your cycle? How many mg of test and tren are you taking everyday? Stats? This info might help bring some more vets in the conversation.

**VegasBody** · 04-30-2014, 10:15 PM

He's on 50 mg each test and tren a day
As far as ibuprofen harsh on your liver...not as harsh as tren
For a couple of days it should be ok to take

**VegasBody** · 04-30-2014, 10:21 PM

Low Estrogen Side Effects:

- Osteoporosis (weakened bones) ; (long-term low levels)
- Poor sex drive
- Fatigue
- Lethargy
- Skin quality diminishes
- Depression
- Poor sense of wellbeing & poor quality of life

**David LoPan** · 04-30-2014, 10:30 PM

IBP is not very hard on the liver as long as you stay under 2400 mg a day. Its the other things it does is why I dont care for it while on cycle.

**Deal Me In** · 05-01-2014, 09:39 AM

If it's just test flu it will pass. Mine usually starts around day 7 and lasts a couple of days. I treat it with Tylenol. I would say if it lasts more than a couple of days you might actually be sick and will want to talk to a doctor.

In my experience, the cardio output will not improve on Tren . To me, this is the worst side effect. I can deal with all the other stuff but the reduction in cardio ability makes me feel like I can't keep up the tempo I like in the gym. I feel like I spend half the time just trying to catch my breath. Once the tren leaves your system your cardio ability will return.