T3 advice

**booSTIn** · 05-03-2014, 07:27 AM

Thinking of adding t3 to my current cycle. Monday starts week 2 of my current cycle which is...

Weeks 1-4 test ace 50mg/ed
Weeks 1-13 test cyp 400mg/week
Weeks 1-12 bold cyp 400mg/week

Yea I'm running pct and have arimidex and all that fun stuff just not listing it. Now I know t3 shouldn't be taken lightly bc of what it can do to you. So, my questions are..

1. What dose should I run
2. What weeks should I run
3. And what is the best/safest way to take it? Should I pyramid it or run it same dose all the way?

**austinite** · 05-03-2014, 07:30 AM

Hey pal,

Do us a favor so that we can better assist you, list your stats and your goals. Without that info, any advice given to you would be random and not tailored to you.

**booSTIn** · 05-03-2014, 07:45 AM

Originally Posted by austinite

Hey pal, Do us a favor so that we can better assist you, list your stats and your goals. Without that info, any advice given to you would be random and not tailored to you.

height 5'5, weight 155, not sure of exact body fat but almost all of it is in the belly. Arms, legs, chest, and shoulders are pretty lean. Probably 20% body fat. Just having trouble getting rid of the belly. I workout Monday-Saturday religiously and eat the same thing every day, macros are spot on. Hoping t3 can help me out. Goals are to get more lean/fit

**Black** · 05-03-2014, 08:02 AM

Originally Posted by booSTIn

height 5'5, weight 155, not sure of exact body fat but almost all of it is in the belly. Arms, legs, chest, and shoulders are pretty lean. Probably 20% body fat. Just having trouble getting rid of the belly. I workout Monday-Saturday religiously and eat the same thing every day, macros are spot on. Hoping t3 can help me out. Goals are to get more lean/fit

20% is, IMO, too high to run any steroids . Lots of health issues can result from cycling with too much bodyfat.

Eating the same thing everyday isn't necessarily a good thing. There are different micro-nutrients you will be missing out on. Also, if you diet is 'spot on', you'd be able to shed some of that bodyfat. I would spend some time in the nutrition forum, really learning and dialing in your diet. Figure out your TDEE and work off of that.

I don't know much about T3 personally. I have never taken it. But I do know that to lose fat, you have to eat accordingly. Best of luck to you.

**booSTIn** · 05-03-2014, 08:23 AM

Originally Posted by Dante Diamond

20% is, IMO, too high to run any steroids. Lots of health issues can result from cycling with too much bodyfat. Eating the same thing everyday isn't necessarily a good thing. There are different micro-nutrients you will be missing out on. Also, if you diet is 'spot on', you'd be able to shed some of that bodyfat. I would spend some time in the nutrition forum, really learning and dialing in your diet. Figure out your TDEE and work off of that. I don't know much about T3 personally. I have never taken it. But I do know that to lose fat, you have to eat accordingly. Best of luck to you.

man I spent month after month learning about diets and macros, took forever to get it perfect. And I eat a mix of different macros so I get them all

**gearbox** · 05-03-2014, 08:26 AM

Originally Posted by booSTIn

man I spent month after month learning about diets and macros, took forever to get it perfect. And I eat a mix of different macros so I get them all

If your macros were perfect then you can would not be 20% bf. Its best to drop down and learn to eat right and cardio so you can maximize a cycle when your ready. Or your just wasting your money.

**booSTIn** · 05-03-2014, 11:17 AM

Guys I'm not asking for advice with my diet I'm asking about t3

**redz** · 05-03-2014, 04:21 PM

You can't just take drugs to fix other obvious problems with diet and training. How much cardio are you doing?

**hawk14dl** · 05-03-2014, 04:28 PM

50 mcg daily.
Start on week 3. run through last pin (could probably run through pct but I wouldn't)
Same dose throughout.

Monitor body temperature, if it gets too high abort.

**gearbox** · 05-03-2014, 04:30 PM

Originally Posted by booSTIn

Guys I'm not asking for advice with my diet I'm asking about t3

we understand that. we are trying to BEST advise you on what to do.
Ok go take t3 right now, since that's what you want to hear. We are trying to help you with your training long term so you can get the best results possible. I would hope you are not like the rest of the group that just wants to rationalize what they are already going to do.
your bf is way to high if you are 20%. so that tells us your training diet and cardio are not where they should be, why would we tell you to shut down your natty thyroid. t3 should ONLY be used to push guys passed 10% imo or guys starting a bulk when they are already 10-12%.

**derekkpapa1** · 05-03-2014, 07:02 PM

SAMSON PERSONAL TRAINING: BODY FAT PERCENTAGE: HOW LONG TILL MY ABS SHOW UP?

Take a look at chart 1/2 way down give us a better idea of your bf%

**booSTIn** · 05-04-2014, 02:54 PM

Originally Posted by Derekjpapa

SAMSON PERSONAL TRAINING: BODY FAT PERCENTAGE: HOW LONG TILL MY ABS SHOW UP? Take a look at chart 1/2 way down give us a better idea of your bf%

I would say I'm between 15-20%

**gearbox** · 05-04-2014, 04:05 PM

Originally Posted by booSTIn

I would say I'm between 15-20%

there is a huge difference between 5%. to get from 15 to 10% is very hard to do for many of us and past 10% is where you should look into t3.

if you cant get to 10% without t3 you do not have any business running this compound imo. it shows you need work on your diet, training, and cardio. Good job thus far on the diet and training.

**< <Samson> >** · 05-04-2014, 05:11 PM

It's consistency

T3, EC, clen or anything alike will not do anything until you change your diet.

No substance can just burn off fat. If there was, don't you think everyone would use it?

If you take whatever, you'll have to do something else with it to actually lose fat.

As far as taking anything like this, like mentioned at the end of cycle would be best.

No there is no reason any healthy guy would not be able to pull close to 10% bf without the help of drugs

**David LoPan** · 05-04-2014, 07:29 PM

^^^^ stop the madness and say it aint so! I'm fat NOT due to my diet but do to all the other reasons one can think of!

**booSTIn** · 05-04-2014, 08:11 PM

Originally Posted by BigTahl

^^^^ stop the madness and say it aint so! I'm fat NOT due to my diet but do to all the other reasons one can think of!

my daily diet is 1682 calories, 228g protein, 47.5g fat, and 90.5 carbs. Spot on macros for my body type and weight when trying to burn fat and maintain muscle. And yea I eat every 2 hours. It's not my diet. I also train 7 days a week. I know lots of guys think that's bad or whatever to not have a rest day but I actually enjoy working out. I will be honest tho with the cardio I only so like 15min but 10min is straight HIIT sprints

**Black** · 05-04-2014, 09:46 PM

Originally Posted by booSTIn

my daily diet is 1682 calories, 228g protein, 47.5g fat, and 90.5 carbs. Spot on macros for my body type and weight when trying to burn fat and maintain muscle. And yea I eat every 2 hours. It's not my diet. I also train 7 days a week. I know lots of guys think that's bad or whatever to not have a rest day but I actually enjoy working out. I will be honest tho with the cardio I only so like 15min but 10min is straight HIIT sprints

What's your BMR and TDEE? My wife eats 1600 calories a day and is 128lbs on a slight cut.

**Schwarzenegger** · 05-04-2014, 11:56 PM

Originally Posted by booSTIn

my daily diet is 1682 calories, 228g protein, 47.5g fat, and 90.5 carbs. Spot on macros for my body type and weight when trying to burn fat and maintain muscle. And yea I eat every 2 hours. It's not my diet. I also train 7 days a week. I know lots of guys think that's bad or whatever to not have a rest day but I actually enjoy working out. I will be honest tho with the cardio I only so like 15min but 10min is straight HIIT sprints

If it was spot on for burning fat and maintaining muscle as u say, u wouldn't need t3 then would u...

**Chicagotarsier** · 05-05-2014, 12:17 AM

LoL.

My 2-cents. Get off the bench and get on your legs and jog an hour a day for 45-60 days. The belly will be gone if you are at maintenance now. You arent going to be winning any bodybuilding shows at 5'5 155 so it should not be an issue.

Playing devils advocate so many weight lifters avoid cardio like the plague and use pills to drop their bodyfat in the 20-10% bodyfat range instead of actually exercising their cardio-vascular system (giggle). They just say it is too hard and take the easy path with pills.

You need to drop like 8 pounds of fat to hit the 15 range...get off the bench....

**555mjolnir** · 05-06-2014, 03:09 AM

Originally Posted by booSTIn

my daily diet is 1682 calories, 228g protein, 47.5g fat, and 90.5 carbs. Spot on macros for my body type and weight when trying to burn fat and maintain muscle. And yea I eat every 2 hours. It's not my diet. I also train 7 days a week. I know lots of guys think that's bad or whatever to not have a rest day but I actually enjoy working out. I will be honest tho with the cardio I only so like 15min but 10min is straight HIIT sprints

Your protein seems high and your carbs seem extremely low.

may i ask what is your body type?

May i also ask if your trying to cut, that is what your trying do right? Why are you running Test Cyp and EQ they are both long ester which are know to make you retain water. I mean what point is there in running Tren A if you cancel out its benefits with the other 2?
Also the Tren A should partition away the carbs and burn excess off as heat thus being some what thermogenic by itself so idk why you are running them so low during a cut? You have to have the energy for the machine to work. carbs should be higher unless you are in the late stages of contest prep and going through or preparing to go through depletion.

My suggestion is two sessions a day of 30-45 of cardio. Drop Protein to 170 grams up carbs to 170 grams and drop fat below 38 grams. Eat stable long burning carbs like sweet potatoes, oatmeal, and Brown rice. Proteins should be lean and bio available like chicken breast digests in 4-6 hours not pork which takes more than 10/ h. Use protein powders sparingly using more real foods.

best of luck my friend.