trenbolon enanthte + test propionate + methan

**MOHA7** · 05-10-2014, 10:24 AM

my cycle is :
trenbolon enanthte 200mg + test propionate 100mg + methan 5 mg
cycle length is 7weeks
so; leave your comment on it >>>

**fit2bOld** · 05-10-2014, 10:34 AM

Ok and your question is?
You included no info as to experience or stats.
All I know is your 23 and most likely not ready to cycle

**MOHA7** · 05-10-2014, 11:05 AM

82 kg weight ; 183cm height ; 3years exercise experience
this is my 2st cycle
first was : boldenon + win + oxandrolone
i want you tell me best dosage use of them ...

**Black** · 05-10-2014, 12:40 PM

Originally Posted by MOHA7

82 kg weight ; 183cm height ; 3years exercise experience
this is my 2st cycle
first was : boldenon + win + oxandrolone
i want you tell me best dosage use of them ...

Two orals and some eq, without test. Doh!

**VegasBody** · 05-10-2014, 01:02 PM

How are your nutty production??

**MOHA7** · 05-10-2014, 01:22 PM

my 2st cycle is :
trenbolon enanthte 200mg + test propionate 100mg + methan 5 mg
cycle length is 7weeks
i want you tell me best dosage use of them

**Back In Black** · 05-10-2014, 01:27 PM

Enanthate ester for 7 weeks is as good as pointless. Why not use ace? In fact, why not just do a test only cycle and do it properly this time?

What's your plan for AI, HCG and PCT?

**Times Roman** · 05-10-2014, 01:32 PM

Originally Posted by Back In Black

Enanthate ester for 7 weeks is as good as pointless. Why not use ace? In fact, why not just do a test only cycle and do it properly this time?

What's your plan for AI, HCG and PCT?

Agreed. Anything with an E esther will take 4 of those 7 weeks just to kick in.

**MOHA7** · 05-10-2014, 01:54 PM

tren ace is not in my reach ! ...
AI : letro
hcg : after the cycle each 5days 5000 IU for 3times
help me ...

**Back In Black** · 05-10-2014, 02:13 PM

Test only. 500mg per week.

Don't use Letro.

Time your HCG properly.

No mention of pct?

Read this and try again

My First Cycle: Planning and Executing a Successful First Cycle

**MOHA7** · 05-10-2014, 02:28 PM

week1 : 400mg tren E ; 300mg test prop ; 30mg methan

week2 : 600mg tren E ; 400mg test prop ; 40mg methan

week3 : 600mg tren E ; 400mg test prop ; 50mg methan

week4 : 600mg tren E ; 400mg test prop ; 50mg methan

week5 : 600mg tren E ; 400mg test prop

week6 : 600mg tren E ; 400mg test prop

week7 : 600mg tren E ; 400mg test prop

it is my coach recommendation ^^^

**Black** · 05-10-2014, 02:31 PM

Originally Posted by MOHA7

week1 : 400mg tren E ; 300mg test prop ; 30mg methan

week2 : 600mg tren E ; 400mg test prop ; 40mg methan

week3 : 600mg tren E ; 400mg test prop ; 50mg methan

week4 : 600mg tren E ; 400mg test prop ; 50mg methan

week5 : 600mg tren E ; 400mg test prop

week6 : 600mg tren E ; 400mg test prop

week7 : 600mg tren E ; 400mg test prop

it is my coach recommendation ^^^

Your coach is a wiener. Enanthate is a long ester and is pointless to run only that duration.

**MOHA7** · 05-10-2014, 02:36 PM

what best duration?

**JDP88** · 05-10-2014, 02:47 PM

Thanks....

**Black** · 05-10-2014, 07:48 PM

Originally Posted by JDP88

I'm looking for some similar advice, I'm getting ready to start my first cycle in the next few weeks. I've done tons of research and I honestly don't wanna over do it like I see most people do. I'm 26 years old and recently I've plateaued to the point where my workouts are easy and with kids I don't work out as much as I like. now I heard people say your maximum potential and then only run test your first cycle, but I'm not 170 lbs lol (195) in these days trenbolone (A) seems to be an American Way. so I was just looking for some good advice the questions I have. Thanks!

1- I said I don't want to overdo it, is 350mg tren /week going to give me the results I want all by itself?

2- should I add test to the tren? Why

3- do I need serm or is it okay to try out a otc pct? N if I do need a serm, what are the dis/advantages of an ai?

4- is a 6-8 week cycle too short?

5- any advice you may have...

I've heard people say you have to have a serm, and things like that, but I'd like some debate pertaining to past experience... Now as said above, I'm not looking for out of the world gains, I just want and decent gains and cuts, so my approach is very cautious, small and tactical on the first cycle.I know I have a lot to learn and you learn through experience but any advice I can get ill take! just want some advice some people who have ran tren cycles in the past! I appreciate any input! Thanks!

Don't hijack this thread. Start your own.

**Black** · 05-10-2014, 07:56 PM

Originally Posted by MOHA7

what best duration?

Tren e is a weird one. You don't feel it for several weeks, but you also don't want to run it too long because of how harsh it is. I've ran it once, for 8 weeks. I started feeling it around week 3-4 and wanted to stop by week 6-7 because of the side effects and feeling like crap. However, as far as gains, I was cutting it short. I've seen people run it 8 weeks, but I feel 10 weeks would be optimal if the person can handle it.

I'll never run tren e again. Ace is much more controllable. Still can be harsh and has its sides, but you can abort it quickly if necessary.

**auswest** · 05-10-2014, 08:12 PM

I had next to no sides with tren e, except a bit of a roller coaster starting for the first 2 weeks and coming off it... Other than that it was plain sailing the entire cycle 600mg for 14 weeks, towards the 12 week mark I would lose my temper very easily and it was becoming a bit of a mind fk alot of paranoia. Tren e really kicks in around week 5 and continues for about 5 weeks from there, then gains tapered off for me. I much prefer tren e to ace as I experienced less sides and pinning daily sucks. The sides like sweating and insomnia I experience through out an ace cycle only really showed up with tren e when starting dosage and ending, so when blood levels were changing

**Back In Black** · 05-11-2014, 01:02 AM

Read the link I gave you after you have sacked your idiot coach.

**MOHA7** · 05-11-2014, 03:24 AM

10 weeks is good ?

**Back In Black** · 05-11-2014, 03:33 AM

For prop 8 weeks is fine.

**MOHA7** · 05-11-2014, 03:37 AM

for combination i said ...
tren E + test prop
is 10wk enough for tren E ?

**Back In Black** · 05-11-2014, 04:02 AM

I'm not advocating you use tren . You need to know how to use test first. Read the damn link I gave you.

**MOHA7** · 05-11-2014, 06:14 AM

i read that ...
can i jump from test prop to test E at 4th week to end??

week1 : 400mg tren E ; 300mg test prop ; 30mg methan

week2 : 600mg tren E ; 400mg test prop ; 40mg methan

week3 : 600mg tren E ; 400mg test prop ; 50mg methan

week4 : 600mg tren E ; 400mg test prop ; 50mg methan

week5 : 600mg tren E ; 500mg test E

week6 : 600mg tren E ; 500mg test E

week7 : 600mg tren E ; 750mg test E

week8 : 600mg tren E ; 750mg test E

week9 : 600mg tren E ; 750mg test E

week10 : 600mg tren E ; 750mg test E

**Back In Black** · 05-11-2014, 06:57 AM

Sounds like you're going to do what you want.

Good luck.

**MOHA7** · 05-13-2014, 08:48 AM

Originally Posted by Back In Black

Sounds like you're going to do what you want.

Good luck.

hey bro ; you say again and again that ''test only-tet only test only ...!!!'' test only cycle is useless ... test only cycle don't give me bulking with quality ....

tell me about this cycle :

week1 : 400mg tren E ; 300mg test prop ; 30mg methan

week2 : 600mg tren E ; 400mg test prop ; 40mg methan

week3 : 600mg tren E ; 400mg test prop ; 50mg methan

week4 : 600mg tren E ; 400mg test prop ; 50mg methan

week5 : 600mg tren E ; 500mg test E

week6 : 600mg tren E ; 500mg test E

week7 : 600mg tren E ; 750mg test E

week8 : 600mg tren E ; 750mg test E

week9 : 600mg tren E ; 750mg test E

week10 : 600mg tren E ; 750mg test E

or 12 weeks???

**Back In Black** · 05-13-2014, 09:07 AM

How do you know test is useless on its own, you've never ran it?!?!?!?!?!?!

**MOHA7** · 05-13-2014, 09:26 AM

Originally Posted by Back In Black

How do you know test is useless on its own, you've never ran it?!?!?!?!?!?!

about 2years ago i ran test enanthate for 8wks ... give me bulk but bulking with no quality !

**Back In Black** · 05-13-2014, 09:48 AM

8 weeks isn't long enough for test e. And it's the lack of quality of your test or your diet not the lack of compounds that made you fail.

**MOHA7** · 05-13-2014, 10:04 AM

what is problem of my cycle???!! cycle length?dosage?! tell me plz

**Back In Black** · 05-13-2014, 10:13 AM

Originally Posted by MOHA7

what is problem of my cycle???!! cycle length?dosage?! tell me plz

I told you. Too many compounds. But I don't think you want to hear that.

**MOHA7** · 05-13-2014, 10:18 AM

Originally Posted by Back In Black

I told you. Too many compounds. But I don't think you want to hear that.

tren + test is too many compounds??!!!

**Back In Black** · 05-13-2014, 10:25 AM

Ok, I'm talking to a brick wall here. Read my posts and the links.

Good luck with your choice.

BTW you ran 2 cycles already to get to your stats. Here's a tip - your diet is the problem.

**PistolPete33** · 05-13-2014, 10:28 AM

This cycle is a complete train wreck. All you need is Test E or C at 500mg/week with HCG and PCT. That said, you're still a bit young and should prob. wait another 2 years or so