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    Just received my package. Now how do I use it?

    Hello Everyone!

    I am 6'7,31 yrs old, 220 lbs with 24% body fat. I have been training on and off for the passed 4 years
    I am about to start my first cycle, but not sure how to go about it.
    Actually my second one...first time I did it was about 2 years ago, and I didn't do it right.
    Was stupid, thought i knew everything so I skipped PCT, and paid the consequences. Terrible mistake.

    So this time, I want to do it right.

    I currently have with me:
    - 1 bottle of trenabol/trenabolone acetate(100MG/ML)
    -1 bottle of T400 depot/testosterone enanthate (400MG/ML)
    -1 bag of clomid-50
    -1 bag of armadex
    -1 bag of nova-20

    My question is...how and when do i have to take my shots?
    For how many weeks? What dosage?
    When do I need to start PCT?

    I would really appreciate your inputs guys.
    Cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by flaze1 View Post
    Hello Everyone!

    I am 6'7,31 yrs old, 220 lbs with 24% body fat. I have been training on and off for the passed 4 years
    I am about to start my first cycle, but not sure how to go about it.
    Actually my second one...first time I did it was about 2 years ago, and I didn't do it right.
    Was stupid, thought i knew everything so I skipped PCT, and paid the consequences. Terrible mistake.

    So this time, I want to do it right.

    I currently have with me:
    - 1 bottle of trenabol/trenabolone acetate(100MG/ML)
    -1 bottle of T400 depot/testosterone enanthate (400MG/ML)
    -1 bag of clomid-50
    -1 bag of armadex
    -1 bag of nova-20

    My question is...how and when do i have to take my shots?
    For how many weeks? What dosage?
    When do I need to start PCT?

    I would really appreciate your inputs guys.
    Cheers
    if these questions need to be answered you aren't ready for a cycle..
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    Quote Originally Posted by almightyrandy View Post
    if these questions need to be answered you aren't ready for a cycle..
    Wow very helpful almightyrandy!!

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    Terrible second cycle. Test E and Tren A are different esters, going to be a complicated injection schedule. I ran it, I know. Plus Tren is a bad choice for second cycle. With a 19nor steroid you need prolactin control, or you could get gyno. You didn't list one. Plus being over 16% body fat greatly increases the chances of side effects. Put all that stuff aside until you research more and lean out a bit. It won't go bad.

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    Diet first dude, get down to at least 15%.

    Then this WILL be your first proper cycle then.
    Test E 500mg per week for 12 weeks
    PCT 2 weeks after week 12

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Small View Post
    Diet first dude, get down to at least 15%.

    Then this WILL be your first proper cycle then.
    Test E 500mg per week for 12 weeks
    PCT 2 weeks after week 12
    Thank you so much Mr. Small. Yes I will wait until I get down to 15% BF then.I am not in a rush anyways.
    I will keep the trenabol on the side and only use T400/Test E.

    I used to take 500mg of Test E and 1/2 pill of Armadex, each time I would inject myself...
    Was that the right way of doing it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rv8G30 View Post
    Terrible second cycle. Test E and Tren A are different esters, going to be a complicated injection schedule. I ran it, I know. Plus Tren is a bad choice for second cycle. With a 19nor steroid you need prolactin control, or you could get gyno. You didn't list one. Plus being over 16% body fat greatly increases the chances of side effects. Put all that stuff aside until you research more and lean out a bit. It won't go bad.
    Thanks for the advise Rv8G30

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    I'm with Mr. Small. I would cut your bf% before starting; put the tren aside and stick with the test only cycle, followed by the PCT. I would pin twice the test twice a week. As for the Adex, I would start with .25mg (usually a 1/4 tab) EOD. Everyone is different regarding the amount needed for AI. Best of luck and keep us posted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flaze1
    Hello Everyone!

    I am 6'7,31 yrs old, 220 lbs with 24% body fat. I have been training on and off for the passed 4 years
    I am about to start my first cycle, but not sure how to go about it.
    Actually my second one...first time I did it was about 2 years ago, and I didn't do it right.
    Was stupid, thought i knew everything so I skipped PCT, and paid the consequences. Terrible mistake.

    So this time, I want to do it right.

    I currently have with me:
    - 1 bottle of trenabol/trenabolone acetate(100MG/ML)
    -1 bottle of T400 depot/testosterone enanthate (400MG/ML)
    -1 bag of clomid-50
    -1 bag of armadex
    -1 bag of nova-20

    My question is...how and when do i have to take my shots?
    For how many weeks? What dosage?
    When do I need to start PCT?

    I would really appreciate your inputs guys.
    Cheers
    You don't have enough of either compound for any cycle bud.... See it you can trade someone your tren bottle for another bottle of test.... I wouldn't use tren on your second cycle... And even two bottles test are probably not enough.... If there is no way to get any more I would probably say use half a cc of the t400 every 4 days and save the tren...that would put you at 350mg of test a week which would last you just under 3mos which is a good run but with your size I would probably use more test then that.

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    Forgot to mention that with your size 500-750mg of test is probably a much better cycle... If you stay around 500mg maybe add in some deca . I would run the entire cycle for 12wks if just test and 15-16ish if you add deca... Also a little d Bol for the first 3-5wks would make the cycle one of my favorites but still a little much for your first cycle unless you drop you're mg's of each a bit . Maybe 600 test 350 deca and 20mg of d Bol each day for a month or so; I like to start my d Bol 3-5wks into my cycle so all compounds are in my system bc they all work together with synergy,,,

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    Good lord! This is what gives bodybuilding and weight training a bad name. Just order a bunch of shit then ask how to use it?!

    Like someone else already said...if you have to ask those questions, then you aren't far enough along in the game to be have the stuff.

    Besides, why would you need anything besides test for a second cycle?

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    You can ignore nearly all of the advice above. If you get down to 15% bodyfat you are gonna weight around 200lbs. At 6'7 that's gonna give you no base at all. It's like being 6ft and less than 170lbs. Nobody would advise you to cycle with those stats.

    If you do, with your current diet knowledge/application you are setting yourself up for failure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by flaze1 View Post
    Wow very helpful almightyrandy!!
    Sad but true! You need to do 2 things.Lose some bf and do some research.You can really mess yourself up not knowing wat you are doing.

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    I was trying to figure out how someone at 6'7 could be 220 and be 24% bf. At 6'4 and 220 back in the day I was under 15% on my worst days.

    Quote Originally Posted by Back In Black View Post
    You can ignore nearly all of the advice above. If you get down to 15% bodyfat you are gonna weight around 200lbs. At 6'7 that's gonna give you no base at all. It's like being 6ft and less than 170lbs. Nobody would advise you to cycle with those stats.

    If you do, with your current diet knowledge/application you are setting yourself up for failure.

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    Thank god, this forum exists! Thank you very much everyone. You just saved my life, I really value your inputs.

    The guy who sold me the kit was a little bit fishy, so i thought I would ask for some advise before using it. Funny thing is he actually said to inject, both tren and test once a week, and it didn't sound right to me, that's why I thought about asking for some advise.
    That's it I won't touch it. I'll go see the doctor + nutritionist on monday and re-check my stats.
    I'll wait, i'm not in rush.

    Thank you sooo much guys, I really appreciate it.
    Cheers!

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    Don't waste your time and money on a nutritionist.

    Visit our nutrition section and get free advice that will be better than any nutritionist.

    Good luck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Back In Black
    Don't waste your time and money on a nutritionist. Visit our nutrition section and get free advice that will be better than any nutritionist. Good luck.
    ^^^!

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    Quote Originally Posted by flaze1 View Post
    Thank god, this forum exists! Thank you very much everyone. You just saved my life, I really value your inputs.

    The guy who sold me the kit was a little bit fishy, so i thought I would ask for some advise before using it. Funny thing is he actually said to inject, both tren and test once a week, and it didn't sound right to me, that's why I thought about asking for some advise.
    That's it I won't touch it. I'll go see the doctor + nutritionist on monday and re-check my stats.
    I'll wait, i'm not in rush.

    Thank you sooo much guys, I really appreciate it.
    Cheers!
    Wise choice bro.

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    Also, read as many of the stickies as you can. A wealth of knowledge. You will learn a lot of the basic need to know stuff. Good decision on waiting. Good luck!

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    Quote Originally Posted by flaze1 View Post
    Thank you so much Mr. Small. Yes I will wait until I get down to 15% BF then.I am not in a rush anyways.
    I will keep the trenabol on the side and only use T400/Test E.

    I used to take 500mg of Test E and 1/2 pill of Armadex, each time I would inject myself...
    Was that the right way of doing it?
    I hope you are serous because most are not.

    I agree. Nothing until you are down to 15% or less.
    Put the tren away and dont worry, it will keep for well over 3 years.

    Read the sticky at the top titles beginner cycle.

    Quote Originally Posted by flaze1 View Post
    Thank god, this forum exists! Thank you very much everyone. You just saved my life, I really value your inputs.
    Cheers!
    Ive never heard of a dealer who wasnt a little or a lot fishy... Most have NO clue on how to do things right and only are interested in selling you what he has. If he doesnt have it he will say you dont need it. He will also talk you into what you dont need.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Back In Black View Post
    Don't waste your time and money on a nutritionist.

    Visit our nutrition section and get free advice that will be better than any nutritionist.

    Good luck.


    My cousins wife is a nutritionist and had no idea what macros were lol

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    U need at least 2 bottles of test you will come short. Specially if u don't count what's inside the needle like I do lol. Save the tren for your next cycle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rwy View Post
    My cousins wife is a nutritionist and had no idea what macros were lol
    She is probably just used to hearing them called macronutrients.

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    I truly value all your advise guys! Thank you so much.
    My first cycle was terrible, and WILL definitely not do the same mistake again.

    I'm not in a rush, I will do it the right way.

    Again, Thank you so much!
    Cheers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flaze1 View Post
    I truly value all your advise guys! Thank you so much.
    My first cycle was terrible, and WILL definitely not do the same mistake again.

    I'm not in a rush, I will do it the right way.

    Again, Thank you so much!
    Cheers.
    ^^ Good Choice ..!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Back In Black
    Don't waste your time and money on a nutritionist. Visit our nutrition section and get free advice that will be better than any nutritionist. Good luck.
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