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05-10-2014, 08:36 PM #1
Just received my package. Now how do I use it?
Hello Everyone!
I am 6'7,31 yrs old, 220 lbs with 24% body fat. I have been training on and off for the passed 4 years
I am about to start my first cycle, but not sure how to go about it.
Actually my second one...first time I did it was about 2 years ago, and I didn't do it right.
Was stupid, thought i knew everything so I skipped PCT, and paid the consequences. Terrible mistake.
So this time, I want to do it right.
I currently have with me:
- 1 bottle of trenabol/trenabolone acetate(100MG/ML)
-1 bottle of T400 depot/testosterone enanthate (400MG/ML)
-1 bag of clomid-50
-1 bag of armadex
-1 bag of nova-20
My question is...how and when do i have to take my shots?
For how many weeks? What dosage?
When do I need to start PCT?
I would really appreciate your inputs guys.
Cheers
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05-10-2014, 08:42 PM #2
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05-10-2014, 09:02 PM #3
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05-10-2014, 09:05 PM #4Associate Member
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Terrible second cycle. Test E and Tren A are different esters, going to be a complicated injection schedule. I ran it, I know. Plus Tren is a bad choice for second cycle. With a 19nor steroid you need prolactin control, or you could get gyno. You didn't list one. Plus being over 16% body fat greatly increases the chances of side effects. Put all that stuff aside until you research more and lean out a bit. It won't go bad.
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05-10-2014, 09:14 PM #5
Diet first dude, get down to at least 15%.
Then this WILL be your first proper cycle then.
Test E 500mg per week for 12 weeks
PCT 2 weeks after week 12
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05-10-2014, 10:25 PM #6
Thank you so much Mr. Small. Yes I will wait until I get down to 15% BF then.I am not in a rush anyways.
I will keep the trenabol on the side and only use T400/Test E.
I used to take 500mg of Test E and 1/2 pill of Armadex, each time I would inject myself...
Was that the right way of doing it?
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05-10-2014, 10:27 PM #7
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05-10-2014, 10:32 PM #8
I'm with Mr. Small. I would cut your bf% before starting; put the tren aside and stick with the test only cycle, followed by the PCT. I would pin twice the test twice a week. As for the Adex, I would start with .25mg (usually a 1/4 tab) EOD. Everyone is different regarding the amount needed for AI. Best of luck and keep us posted.
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Originally Posted by flaze1
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Forgot to mention that with your size 500-750mg of test is probably a much better cycle... If you stay around 500mg maybe add in some deca . I would run the entire cycle for 12wks if just test and 15-16ish if you add deca... Also a little d Bol for the first 3-5wks would make the cycle one of my favorites but still a little much for your first cycle unless you drop you're mg's of each a bit . Maybe 600 test 350 deca and 20mg of d Bol each day for a month or so; I like to start my d Bol 3-5wks into my cycle so all compounds are in my system bc they all work together with synergy,,,
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05-10-2014, 11:34 PM #11
Good lord! This is what gives bodybuilding and weight training a bad name. Just order a bunch of shit then ask how to use it?!
Like someone else already said...if you have to ask those questions, then you aren't far enough along in the game to be have the stuff.
Besides, why would you need anything besides test for a second cycle?
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05-11-2014, 12:54 AM #12
You can ignore nearly all of the advice above. If you get down to 15% bodyfat you are gonna weight around 200lbs. At 6'7 that's gonna give you no base at all. It's like being 6ft and less than 170lbs. Nobody would advise you to cycle with those stats.
If you do, with your current diet knowledge/application you are setting yourself up for failure.NO SOURCES GIVEN
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05-11-2014, 01:01 AM #13
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05-11-2014, 03:33 AM #14Senior Member
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05-11-2014, 01:13 PM #15
Thank god, this forum exists! Thank you very much everyone. You just saved my life, I really value your inputs.
The guy who sold me the kit was a little bit fishy, so i thought I would ask for some advise before using it. Funny thing is he actually said to inject, both tren and test once a week, and it didn't sound right to me, that's why I thought about asking for some advise.
That's it I won't touch it. I'll go see the doctor + nutritionist on monday and re-check my stats.
I'll wait, i'm not in rush.
Thank you sooo much guys, I really appreciate it.
Cheers!
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05-11-2014, 01:32 PM #16
Don't waste your time and money on a nutritionist.
Visit our nutrition section and get free advice that will be better than any nutritionist.
Good luck.NO SOURCES GIVEN
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05-11-2014, 02:16 PM #17Originally Posted by Back In Black
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05-12-2014, 01:01 AM #18
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05-12-2014, 08:15 AM #19
Also, read as many of the stickies as you can. A wealth of knowledge. You will learn a lot of the basic need to know stuff. Good decision on waiting. Good luck!
JP
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05-12-2014, 08:37 AM #20
I hope you are serous because most are not.
I agree. Nothing until you are down to 15% or less.
Put the tren away and dont worry, it will keep for well over 3 years.
Read the sticky at the top titles beginner cycle.
Ive never heard of a dealer who wasnt a little or a lot fishy... Most have NO clue on how to do things right and only are interested in selling you what he has. If he doesnt have it he will say you dont need it. He will also talk you into what you dont need.Last edited by lovbyts; 05-12-2014 at 08:39 AM.
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05-12-2014, 08:43 AM #21
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05-12-2014, 09:07 AM #22New Member
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U need at least 2 bottles of test you will come short. Specially if u don't count what's inside the needle like I do lol. Save the tren for your next cycle.
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05-12-2014, 11:16 AM #23
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05-12-2014, 08:14 PM #24
I truly value all your advise guys! Thank you so much.
My first cycle was terrible, and WILL definitely not do the same mistake again.
I'm not in a rush, I will do it the right way.
Again, Thank you so much!
Cheers.
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05-13-2014, 05:41 AM #25
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05-13-2014, 07:25 AM #26Originally Posted by Back In Black
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